In 5-10 years we might be going Fallout in reality

That was a demo of the game, not the gold game. Therefore there was still work to be done. They could have added more since they don't wanna be to revealing of there game before its out. Its a Fallout game so I'm sure if theres not alot of people anyway then theres a god, good reason for it.

If the amount of people is anything near the amount found in Megaton, im satisfied...

I much rather have a few NPC's that you can have conversations with, than tons of NPC's that are there just to fill the town up.

Then again, this is Vegas, and i expect a few more in the finished version of the game.

I'd say that I would very much prefer to have a bunch of conversation-friendly NPC's, but also a number of "filler" NPC's as well. In reality, I really don't walk around, talking to everyone I see anyway, so why would I do that in a game? Especially in the Fallout world, people would probably be far less likely to engage in conversation with strangers.

And I think Oblivion is a fine example as to why there's no need to talk to every NPC you see, as they all - when it comes down to it - are nothing but filler NPC's that you can talk to for no reason, just to hear the same lame "rumours" over and over again. I'd rather skip the whole conversation screen, just like in FO3, and have them say just one line. Kinda like "Looking for supplies? Check out Craterside Supply". That's more informative than what most people in Oblivion had to say, and yet you didn't need to enter that unnatural, time-warping conversation screen.

And a city simply doesn't feel like a city if there are but 6 people in the streets.

Maybe there is another explenation people. Has anyone noticed that every time we got a view of the Strip it was night (probably to show off all the nice shiny neon lights). Who knows, maybe most people were sleeping despite Vegas being the city where nobody ever sleeps.

People saying "blame the engine" IIRC in one interview some Obsidian dev said they modified the engine to handle more people because of how populated they were making the gameworld. The Strip is empty because you have to pay to get in and it was just recently started back up.

Exactly. In a world where 50 caps (or whatever other currency equivalence) is supposed to be 'alot' 2000 caps is probably the equivalent of trying to by a Tenpenny Tower Penthouse. Besides, The Strip is a privalege, not a right. So I can imagine alot of New Vegas residents, albeit jealous, have more urgent things to use their caps on besides trying to taste the Pre-War life for one night.

^ ^ ^ This, This, and This.

the intro video (before you get shot) shows loads of people (and robots) milling around the strip. So maybe it was just because they were showing alpha demo.

ya the last vids we have seen show alot more people about.. most of em drunk.

Its not the engines fault.

But if it is....

Thats disapointing, and a major flaw.

Not many ways to get there after a nuclear apocalypse.

um anyone else realize that wasn't release it was a demo

What I was thinking their lore reason behind it would be, but its mostly the engine.

And what Silver Eagle and medvial lady said that was an old video from way back so they probably have some filler NPCs by now.

Heh. Well, at least the technology should be better by then! I still remember back in the late 80′s when I used to play on my father's laptop - and everything was black and yellow/white. If one can look back as far as that, one realizes just how much things have improved up until today .

Well hopefully with Fallout 4 or The Elder Scrolls V they might have updated the engine to support more NPC's.
But yeah it's sad that The Strip will be so deserted.

Apparantly the words 'Demo' and 'The Strip is divided into 4 cells' mean absolutely nothing.

If only everyone could understand this :facepalm:


But I agree with the Colonel. Also, obviously Vegas is not an easy place to get into so I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't that many people. IMO In the demo it seemed like the right amount of people to me. I wouldn't want to have to wait in line for a blackjack table or a Gomorrah girl :swear:

While there are times when i really like having interesting and dynamic NPCs wandering about (mass effect citadel in the clubs and bars for example), i really find that i like the the few NPCs in Fallout 3 because every one was interesting and in depth it also contributed to the desolate atmosphere.

technical limitations are a [censored] aren't they?

I just ripped this out of a http://www.gamersguidetolife.com/2010/10/exclusive-fallout-new-vegas-community.html someone posted in another topic:
"In Fallout 3, the most populated place was the slightly barren Rivet City, with only a small handful of NPCs. Will there be much larger settlements in New Vegas, with many more interactive NPCs?

Since the Strip (and a lot of the surrounding region) didn't get hit by nukes, you'll find more intact settlements, and more people overall. In fact, the first town you wake up in (Goodsprings) has a decent number of folk, and you'll find more populated areas as you explore the wasteland. Overall, we've got a ton of NPCs."

The huge difference in Mass Effect was that NOBODY moved around, and aside from the merchants and some quest NPCs, you couldn't interact with them. I think I actually prefer Mass Effect's ambient NPCs, though. Sure, in FO3 they wandered around and had schedules, but they had nothing to say and were basically there to fill space. Of course, FO3 had the fun of opening fire on a crowd, too.

what are you talking about, morrowind had hundreds and hundreds of people without crashing the engine, and it worked just fine on the original xbox. besides, for me, they don't have to do or say much, I want plenty of npcs that I can interact with but they certianly could add npcs that just have a single line, who wake up; gamble; whatever and the go home just about every day. that would make things look habitated.

It could just be for video purposes.

Vault 21 = cell 1, UltraLuxe = cell 2, Tops/LVM = cell 3, Lucky 38/Gomorrah = cell 4?

/jazz hands