The issue here is, that if the Bad guy's agenda is to end the world, then it would be in your own best interest to oppose said bad guy, you know, for the sake of survival! Besides, most stories typically follow the process (life and challenges) of the good guy, because people (debatedly) can better relate to the good guy, rather than the psychotic killer... Furthermore, following a "hero" character inspires people to be or act "good" them selves, and gives hope, that not everyone are evil...

Of course, this is just philosophical conjecture, and not necessarily true, or even sensible...

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... yet the antagonist is still the same.

That's kinda my point, that antagonists are antagonists for a reason.


In Oblivon, you can still be evil, yet destroying the world is not something that would help your evil plans.

In Morrowind, you could only benefit from joining the Sixth house if you were a Dunmer, born in Morrowind, and event then you would only be a mindless slave (or dead if Dagoth Ur figures out you are the Nevraine)

And in Skyrim, you can hardly join the Dragons because you're just a lowly mortal.

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They could be done, Starcraft and Knights of the Old Republic are both examples where evil wins in the end(and you control it), and it doesn't destroy the story. They both have sequels.

All it takes is just a different kind of story telling.

I've actually always wanted to write the story for such a game.

Fallout 3
Fallout: New Vegas
Vampire: the Masterade: Bloodline
Planescape: Torment
Baldur's Gate series

Seriously, you need to play more games.

All of these except Fallout 3, because even if you poisoned the water, in Broken Steel you HAD to join the Brotherhood in order to progress in the quest...you also HAD to fight against The Enclave. You cold not 'join' the bad guys, you were THE bad guy, which I found annoying. I do not like my characters to act as Gods anywhere outside of TES. Powerful and influential? Sure. Ability to destroy everything he/she touches? No. That's in terms of actual gameplay and moral choices.