It's sad that this is the truth. On release, Skyrim wasn't particularly bad compared to other games of its genre.

What's notable about this patch (and for many people, unforgivable), is that it screwed a number of legitimate customers out of the only workaround that made the game playable (64 bit executable thingie), and introduced two potentially game-breaking bugs. As far as I can tell, this sort of thing isn't really common, even these days.

We're talking about a lot more than a simple flawed product, it's a flawed product that was rendered defective for quite a few of the users in the name of fixing things.

You know you're not any better than the haters, don't you? If you think so, you're fooling yourself.

Overprotection is just as bad as overcriticise. As much as I love the game, the latest patch is just crap. Go look practically anywhere and you'll notice the ones who doesn't have any issue are practically the privileged ones. Even I have them, although they're minor (by now, I haven't tested it that much).

The good thing about patches is 1.2 isnt the last one. The bad new is we have to sit through the whining of the hundreds of "game breaking" problems people have.


What is that supposed to mean?

yeah the you tubes he linked were all fake.

The Backwards flying dragons also seem to be unkillable, pretty damn gamebreaking if you ask me. People without any issues seem to just believe everyone else should man up. which is a tremendously stupid stance.

He probly means people that are lucky enough not to get the bug with the patch. Personally I have seen almost all the bugs posted in about 30 mins of gameplay but the biggest issue I have with is the FPS drop off that has came with the new patch before i ran the game fine on ultra setings now its almost like a slideshow. It just means I cant play skyrim for a few days untill they fix it or i can play it just get used to the bugs till they fix it I just hope they pinpoint the problem fairly easy and get it done fast I am already getting Skyrim withdrawl.

@title: The balance threads have been snuffed out?

I have the PC version and have never experienced a single glitch at 90 hours in aside from a slight framerate stutter when entering the labyrinthian. I've been having nothing but fun times.

So whining like what you are doing really tends to get annoying, how about you try and say something more productive rather than being a funkiller for everyone else. :>

Its not that the beth-fluffers are in a majority, or even a large minority, its just that everyone else is awkwardly silent, waiting for some, any, good news.

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I can feel the love in this topic. I am going to scooch my way to the emergency exit now.

What many of you fail to realize is the fact that some/majority of the users really aren't having problems that they feel whining about. Sure, i have some broken quests, and sure I can see that the rain is falling through the buildings, that sometimes glitches happen, etc. but the thing is, for me this isn't game-breaking. I haven't had experience with CTD's that annoyed the hell out of me (6 in 120 hours of play so far, all made ~2-5 minutes after the last save). I think that if CTD's were happening all the time, i had glitches like some people i would be pretty pissed as well, but if nothing can be done i would have left the game until they fixed it. There's plenty of other things to do in life besides Skyrim.
Now i've seen the footage from the PS3 version, and a lot of bugs and i can say that most of the hating can in reality be approved. The PS3, i really have no idea what went wrong there, but i feel sorry for you guys.
This new patch HAS made some things quite buggy, and I agree with that as well, i just don't feel like hating on bethesda for it. I got 100+ hours of gameplay for my money, and that's pretty decent. I know some of you had more problems than you wanted and i do symphatize, but try to relax and enjoy something while it gets fixed.

What i DO think would help all of us, is someone from bethesda actually commenting on the patches and the game progress. I think a lot of people would be satisfied to at least know that they messed up some code, and that they are working to fix it. It is pretty bad if a patch like this comes out and no word is said from the developers.

Big game companies are always complaining about piracy and rightfully so, but they have no problem whatsoever it seems with delivering an unfinished product riddled with bugs and made unplayable for so many people, look at the ps3 version when it came out, absolutely shocking.

Frankly it is plain wrong, and before anyone starts making excuses, look at Nintendo's Mario, how many times have you ever bought a Mario game and thought to yourself, "fingers crossed, hope it works this time"? NEVER! thats when, because they have a good level of quality control.

Three weeks later after release my annoyance has turned to anger, i have a good gaming pc that runs all my other games perfectly but not skyrim, even when put on settings lower than Oblivion had, it lags, it crashes to desktop and on the worst occasions it system freezes, i paid for a game that is broken, surely that can't be right, and now with Steam there's no refunds, perfect.

Moral of the story? Don't pre-order, don't buy on release, but buy 3-6 months after release.

Two words. [censored] happens.

They have not made a good RPG since Morrowind, and even that had a ton of major flaws. The only reason people climb so far up Bethesda's rear is because it's one of the few companies left producing any "kind of" RPG at all. Not because they release great games. Because at release, they always give out betas and most of their games require mods before they are actually enjoyable. When Bioware isn't busy selling out, they usually make much more memorable games...that are actually playable from day one. Obsidian gets so much flak for releasing buggy software, yet they almost always write better stories than Bethesda and Bethesda's games are just as buggy!

A mannequin in my Riften house did the exact same thing, and that was a few days ago before the patch.

I think we have some paranormal activity happening.

What about backward dragons, Mister Smarty-pants?

Good lord, people like you piss me off to no end. "Isn't broken in mine, so fyi, it doesn't exist at all!".

This thread is really just a bunch of flames, now. Many of you will be hearing from me shorty.