Excellent RL parallel. Argonians were one of the two races that the Dunmer preferred most for the slavework on their farms in Morrowind.

I don't know about others but I'd react the same way as with the white hypothetical scenario. Otherwise it would be racism, since you'd be giving people different privileges based on their skin color.

They're not gray skinned.

True, but Mer nonetheless. If the denizens of Windhelm were as racist as some make them out to be, it would make even more sense for them to treat the Altmer badly, since the link between Altmer and Thalmor is pretty obvious to most. However, the Altmer behave and work hard, and Niranye was accepted pretty quickly (she says she just moved to Windhelm). The Dunmer are too proud at times. They came there as refugees, and beggars can't be picky. The Nords were under no obligation to help them, yet they did. The Nords could be a bit more friendly and welcoming, sure, but it's up to the Dunmer to try to fit in, and not change the Nords to fit the Dunmer.

Many dunmer are racists (actually specists), we learned that much in Morrowind.
The dunmer are a race, though, calling all of them racists is racialistic.

The Stormcloaks are an organisation, not a people.

There is a difference between racism and fascism, though. "Skyrim for the Nords" "true Nord" and "Those that aren't for us are against us" are nationalist statements, not racist ones, the Stormcloaks are radical nationalists that don't refrain from starting a civil war to achieve their main goal of regaining a new national pride after a disgraceful loss of a previous war.

Ulfric himself doesn't care whether Talos is a deity or not, he is simply a powermonger using religion as a front to gather followers. Had everyone accepted his claim as High King there would be no secession war, and he would use his political power to start a new Empire-Dominion war and take revenge for the personal disgrace he suffered at the hands of the Thalmor.

In the end the Elder Scrolls is racist itself, since it divides the races. And I'm not sure if you suggest the opposite, but there's a difference between Fascism and Nationalism too. Not to mention that there are different forms of Nationalism. Some are centered around ethnicity, with some not belonging in a certain nation, while others are more about citizenship where allegiance to the nation is important while ethnicity is not.

Its not just the Stormcloaks, you could say, General Tullius is racist too for his comments on the Nords and their behavior.

Racism is too easily thrown around even for the smallest comment made. If you speak to Ulfric's right hand man (as another race) he clearly states he does not have an issue with other races, so long as they do not put down the Nord ways or not support them. There is proof of this with a Wood Elf in Windhelm.

Plus the Nords are not exactly thrilled about the Elven races, they did just go to war and fight against the A.D. only to be stabbed in the back. Trust between the Nords and Elves is rather thin right now. Tamerial is in chaos, races fighting other races, races hating other races, it just did not start happening now, its been happening since the 1st era or hell even before that.

I agree. You see the racism card pulled out too often these days to discredit the other side, gaming forums or otherwise alike. Funny thing is that people often try to stop racism by utilizing racistic methods while condemning any and every form of racism.

the empire hates the thalmor.

argument fail.

This thread must be cleaned from all the anti-US and Taliban stuff.

LMFAO at Op......pay attention to names and actual conversations.

the 2 drunks were harassing the dunmer, one was a veteran but no longer part of the stormcloaks or imperial i forgot but no longer military.

Ulfric says that dosent the Elfs know he has a war on his hands and that he will deal with it later...reason why the Dunmer are not TOP prioterie is that he is fighting a war and the dunmer are not contributing to it whats so ever...they believe its not thier war, so no help formt hem why do they need to be top prioty to him. Note that he says that he wont EVER get to thier problems but later.

Also Look outside the city rigth across the street, theres a DUNMER owning a farm and has a NORD workign underneath him, not to mention the High Elfs, wood elfs and the dark elfs right there selling and being merchants, no ones talkign crap about them.

Reason why theres a rift between the dark Elfs and the Nords? Nord King whiel back when volcano erupted and wiped out the dark elf, the nord king offered the dark elfs a place to live. The dark elfs came over and expected peopel to respect thier homeland traditions and ways and not have to follow or respect the ways of the lands they live in. When they realized that everyoen was expecting them to respect the ways that thigns are doen in this land, the elfs felt butthurt because they were pretty much expecting to recreat morrowind...ya different cultures clashing.

The stormcloaks that are talkign about how they dont want an "elf" rulign over them, they are talking about the thalmor in how they have infitrated the higher ranks of the Empire and have such power in the empires own countrys.

The dude in Windhelm talking about how Ulfric all gunho to take care of bandits messign with nords but not anyoen else......
The dark elfs----the civil war is not thier war, they contribute nothing to the fight and barely enuf of them contribute to better the city. Talk with the farm owner and the armor lady at stall, they both tell ya that the poverty is the dunmers own fault because they wont contribute to the city and and
show thier worth.
The Khajits------dotn think ti needs to be explained since the khajits REVERE the thalmor because of the whole moon thing.
The Argonians----if theres any race that would hate and not get along whatsoever with the dunmer, its the argonians because of being slaves to them for hundreds of years. The argonians are keep outside at docks for simple fact of keeping the peace betweent he 2 races because the argonians
most like would start a riot or hell the harrassment the dunmer sees from the 2 drunks would be nothing to what the argonians would do if they could get away with it...and problemly even if they couldnt get away with it.

Also if u talked ot the woman, she says that the person does this all the time and that he mainly just goes up and down the street yelling obsienitys, and u also have to remember that The "police' i this day and age are different than back then or in this game. To the Nord people, physical fights and duels are a favored past time, if u aint a milk drinker u stand up give or take a beating if it goes beyound that u tell the guards they take care of it then.

No i am not taking up for the drunks, i depise them but they are not stormcloaks, they are both drunks and one being a disgruntal ex-soldier. I beat the main dude down with my fists after the conversations and told them to leave dunmer alone and got 200g from it.

Skyrim for the Nords and all that hooplah is talkign about Skyrim for the Nordic traditions that are being overwriten and stepped on by the Empire and the Thalmor coming in.

i cant remember if there was anythign else im forgetting.