Is it worthwhile to enhance sneak? : V

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:28 am

Is it worthwhile to enhance sneak beyond 100% with enchantments?

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:31 pm

No.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:25 am

Naw i just use muffle.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:17 am

Hell yeah it is...sneak is so fun..but you will be OP so beware...

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:28 pm

I'm not quite at 100, but did take peks that I find VERY useful. My character is an archer, and it is very satisfying when you wreak avocado while hidden.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:58 am

How about multiple muffle enchantments?

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:28 am

How about multiple muffle enchantments?

Or how about the silent perk? Is it useful after you already have muffle?

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:38 am

I haven't noticed any real improvement with sneak buffs above 100.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:13 pm

I can sneak up to anything with 1 perk into sneak(+ a few perks on left side of the tree) and 1 pair of enchanted boots I looted. Thats even w/o muffle..

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:50 am

According to UESP wiki if you take the Silence perk it acts as 100% Muffle, so no need for Muffle enchantments on your gear.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:08 pm

I'm not quite at 100, but did take peks that I find VERY useful. My character is an archer, and it is very satisfying when you wreak avocado while hidden.

I know you meant "wreak havoc", but this just struck me as extremely funny. Then I thought about a perk which lets you add looted tomatoes to the attack in order to wreak guacamole.

"I used to be an adventurer like you, until someone wreaked avocado on me."

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:16 pm

I know you meant "wreak havoc", but this just struck me as extremely funny. Then I thought about a perk which lets you add looted tomatoes to the attack in order to wreak guacamole.

"I used to be an adventurer like you, until someone wreaked avocado on me."

FOTFLMAO - I saw this today - Darn spell check! I love it. Can't stop laughin' :biggrin:

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:24 am

Marcus Antonius:

And Caesar's spirit, raging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry "Avocado!" and let slip the dogs of war,
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.

http://www.enotes.com/jc-text/act-iii-scene-i?start=2#jul-3-1-293

See? It's Shakespear!

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:03 am

yeah, the only monsters I can't kill one hit with sneak dagger on master level are draugr death overlords atm.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:29 am

Yeah - i'm never livin' this one down!!

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:08 am

"I used to be an adventurer like you, until someone wreaked avocado on me."

Sigged

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:21 pm

Yeah - i'm never livin' this one down!!

I'm as tired of hearing the "arrow to the knee" line as anyone, but now that I think of wreaking avocado when I hear it, the annoyance has been replaced with a mental chuckle.

Back on topic with regards to Muffle...

Even without any sneak skill to speak of, having boots with Muffle in terrain which blocks line of sight gives you a nice advantage over opponents. You can get closer and prepare for combat without them noticing, or drink an Invisibility potion and get away or reposition without being noticed.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:17 pm

Sneak at 100 + muffle is really all you need.
Everything else is just a waste of perks and enchantments

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:37 pm

Depends on how OP you want to be. If you really deck yourself out with a full set of enchants, you can sneak up to someone from the front, in broad daylight, at any speed. You can attack them and they continue looking around, unable to find you. "Worthwhile" is very subjective.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:23 pm

It does seem to make a difference, even with muffle. I suspect that the game throws your value of sneak against an enemy's wakefulness. Obviously, if the enemy has a low value, 100% is fine. But if the enemy is wide-awake and looking for you, 100% isn't enough - but 125% is. With that percentage you can just crouch there in broad daylight and watch them flail around. Clearing the Katariah is a hoot like that.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:02 am

Does difficulty level influence enemy alert state in any way?

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:02 pm

i would think that higher levels are more wakeful.
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i use the spell muffle so that i can raise my illusion level too.

sneak is a great skill.