I don't care what anyone says on this matter and I don't care what psychiatrists say on this matter one can't blame every horrible act one does in a game as "role playing" or make believe. I've met enough people and learned enough about human nature in my lifetime to believe that there is something inside that allows one to justify horrible things done in a game. There is no real way to prove or disprove my belief using the scientific method so it will always remain a theory.

Or we're just able to separate fantasy from reality...

For now...

Yeah, ok.. because I encounter dragons and elves and mudcrabs and crazy bandits with swords every day.

If you're playing a video game that mimics real life and you have to do evil things that would happen in real life, I could see how that could be close to the line, but a fantasy game set in a fantasy world with pretty much nothing that mimics reality? Give me a break.

Crazy bandits with swords? How about unbalanced criminals with guns? Couldn't happen.

Not everything mimics real life, but cannibalism and tricking and sacrificing a person who trusts you can blur the lines of right and wrong and the more we do things like that the more we become desensitized to it

...especially young children.

It's all about the setting.. This all takes place on a completely fake world with properties that are very different than ours..

Because young children totally can purchase mature rated games.

Dark Brotherhood are actually neutral. Assassins will take any side.. It is just which side pays them.. Sadly, the Evil Side is what normally pays them and that is why people think they are evil.

AS for the TG, they are closer to evil than the DBH cause they only want money for themselves and will hurt anybody.. Special people who are too poor to do what they ask for.. The DBH actually kills more rich people than poor cause rich people are the ones to cause trouble.. The poor don't do much to cause enough trouble for a DBH assassin to come after them.

Companions are Good. They want what is best for their home and helps other a lot but they do ask for money cause you gotta make a living.

The College is neutral. They tend to not to help others but they do not wish to harm others as well.

The majority of evil-quests are Daedric/Side quests. If you do a Daedric Quest for any of the Princes that are considered as Evil, like Mehrunes Dagon, then yeah. That is evil. (Please note there are some neutral/good Daedric Princes)

...but a lot of the emotion and all of the decision-making takes place in the brain.


Have you any idea how clueless most parents are these days? Next time you're buying a game take a look around at the parents buying the games with their small children and see how many of the games are rated M. Bethesda obviously knows how many children play their games. They claim that these forums are PG-13 and they moderate them like they're rated G - for an M rated game...that's supposed to be like an R movie. Speaking of which: I'll stop here and give you the last word because neither of us is gonna' change the other's mind. Plus, I'm pretty sure that someone who's upset about not being invited to be a Moderator will soon have their eyes offended and report this thread which will be "locked for review and clean-up" and then "locked because thread has served it's purpose".

...you can't pass all the blame for the murder on to the person hiring them just as a soldier isn't allowed to plead only obeying orders as a defence.

Why don't we attack the real problem - irresponsible parents...?

IMO, you don't get much for being a good guy in the real world either.

Why don't we attack the real problem - irresponsible parents - instead of attacking violent games and movies?