Is there any point of being a good guy in skyrim ?

Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:15 am

Ok now first thing i will say is that it's my first playthrough and i've got to a point where i needed to join the dark brotherhood, now for some people that didn't play the first brotherhood encounter SPOILERS INCOMING!

I decided to kill the person who captured me instead of any of the other captives (people who have done this quest will understand) and then i recived a quest named "Destroying the dark brotherhood" and i was like "Oh yeah ! an epic quest chain to rid skyrim of the dark brotherhood !" only to find out that the quest is lame simply go into the hide out and kill everyone and reciving a funny amout of 3000 gold and a tap on the back . . WTF ?! i get that instead of an epic "evil" campaign progress ? . . atleast give me a unique mount . . or i don't know a weapon ?! . . but gold ?! seriously ? . . and the only other thing i noticed is the guards say thanks . . but that's just about it . . then i thought to myself . . "ok . . let's rid skyrim of the thieves guild, only to find out theres no quest chain against them . . only joining them and you can't even kill them because their related to other quest and several NPC's are essential.
Now i haven't played any quests in both of those campaigns but i just want to stick being a good guy . . but i'd lose a ton of content and no rewards what so ever . . this game offers an "illusion" of choise instead of actually giving you one . . you either expirience the content or not . .

Am i the only one whose actually wanting to be a good guy ? i mean the companions are a great balance between good and evil . . but are there any other similar factions ? are there any other choises to be made ?

No spoilers please, since i haven't done any of the factions quests including the stupid civil war which makes me want to kill both sides :P

What are your thoughts ?
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James Potter
 
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:32 am

You ask for no spoilers yet you are happy to post them in your OP. I will move this to the spoiler forum.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:52 pm

It's difficult to be truly good in Skyrim and get quest chains. Rundown in the spoiler tag.

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MQ: Clearly good.
Companions: Neutral, with a potential good ending - for their talk of honour, the Companions are mercenaries - and not above being used as hired thugs.
College of Winterhold: Neutral. Their pursuit is entirely intellectual, and they tolerate the disciplined study of magic for its own sake, regardless of common perceptions of ethics.
Thieves Guild: Neutral, leaning more evil as you progress. They're thieves, and certainly not of the Sherwood Forest dwelling type.
Dark Brotherhood: Clearly evil.
Civil War (either): Imps are generally lawful good, Stormcloaks are generally chaotic good. However, completing the War requires an act of blackmail, installing at least one oppressive mafia boss as jarl, and possibly acts of treason. In particular, fighting for the Stormcloaks will absolutely require an act of treason against Whiterun, even if you rush to Windhelm as a fresh-faced level 1.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:39 pm

i see . . so there's no point in being good waht so ever . . that's sad . . only sychpathic killers play this game then ? :P
Didn't bathesda had a few good guys that thought this is wrong ? guess not . . hugh dissapointment . .
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:45 am

I'm finding it hard to be "good". Even in Companions, you do the werewolf thing, which I don't consider good, but at least you can cure it.

I guess the College of Winterhold aren't evil, nor is the main quest. My next character will be "good", and I will not join ANY of the guilds. I will just do side quests to help people and kill everything evil.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:48 pm

i see . . so there's no point in being good waht so ever . . that's sad . . only sychpathic killers play this game then ? :tongue:
Didn't bathesda had a few good guys that thought this is wrong ? guess not . . hugh dissapointment . .

I wouldn't say there's no point. It's more challenging to find the good - which sadly mirrors real life in many respects. Give it a try though! ^^
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:25 pm

I play skyrim like i would play real life. now before you call me a cannibalistic-pagan-worshipping-thief-murderer, how often would such circumstances occur in your daily life? I also rationalize potentially immoral choices for the fact that i need to eventually save the world.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:25 pm

Eh, be a little of both, just like a normal person. Otherwise you're only playing part of the game. The point of being purely good would only be to impose stricter rules on your character or to role play I guess.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:30 pm

I hope the first DLC is about joining the Vigilants of Stendarr. They are generally a good organization (though with ruthless tactics), and would offset some of the others.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:58 am

I hope the first DLC is about joining the Vigilants of Stendarr. They are generally a good organization (though with ruthless tactics), and would offset some of the others.

I hope that's included, but I really hope that isn't all the DLC is. I'm okay with the ability to join a group that's pretty much a bunch of Inquisitors, but they'd better have a long campaign if that's all we'd get as DLC.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:43 am

I have found that i play as both good and bad. I help the random people in trouble and give to the beggers, but then i do the theives guild and dark brotherhood, and i love the toys you get from from the deadric quests. With no morality system in the game (thank god for that) there is no punishment for anything you do.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:53 pm

Ah, youngsters. They think life is, or can be, black and white. It isn't and neither is Skyrim.

Don't want to be 'evil'? Then don't do the TG or DB quest lines. Don't do the CW questline, either. Nothing changes. It always stays simmering with discontent.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:27 am

The thieves' guild is clearly evil. The first thing they had me do was shakedown locals for protection money.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:23 pm

Just let your hair down and be evil. It's fun :devil:
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:43 am

This is my take on all of this.

Evil:
Boethiah's Calling
The Taste of Death

Maybe Evil:
Pieces of the Past

Neutral:
TG
DB

Goodish:
Companions
MQ

Noble - Goodish:
Stormcloaks - CW

Weak - Neutralish:
Empire - CW

No matter how you slice it: Skyrim is no place for a Paladin. :lol:

As you asked that we not post spoilers I'll only elaborate if asked. :P
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:38 am

Personally I'd only class the DB and most of the Daedric quests as truly evil, serving supernatural forces inimical to mortals
The TG? No bunch of dogooders, true, but its a harsh world, they're just making a living and don't go around killing people as part of business
The Companions? Mercenaries but with a code of honour. No different to the FG in past TES games. They only use their curse against the Silverhand who aren't nice people
Both sides in the Civil War? Both sides have their unsavoury elements (Silverbloods, Black Briars etc) but their leaders are fighting for what they believe is right
College of Winterhold? Pursuit of knowledge for its own sake is more admirable than pursuit of knowledge for profit or power
As far as factions go I find shades of gray more interesting than black and white and with the exception of the DB thats what we get
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:36 am

No matter how you slice it: Skyrim is no place for a Paladin. :lol:

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This exactly. Skyrim is not the place to play the (D&D) lawful good. It's probably slightly tough to play the chaotic good. It seems like the rewards on the evil end of the spectrum are better than those on the good side courtesy of the devs. I won't play through the DB or some of the Daedric quest lines. I've seen others play through them and it's not my cup of tea. I've gotten more than my 60 dollars of fun out of the game at over 200 hours on two characters so I'm not complaining. It would be nice to decisively slay evil though, but I'll leave that for some other game (whatever that may be :biggrin: ).
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:55 am

This exactly. Skyrim is not the place to play the (D&D) lawful good. It's probably slightly tough to play the chaotic good.
By D&D terms: I play kinda' lawful neutral. :lol:

I won't play through the DB or some of the Daedric quest lines.
I will never do Namira's, but I'm gonna' try the glitch in Boethiah's if the cultists respawn otherwise I won't do it, either.

As for the DB: you might want to consider it because other than the first 3 contracts (grey area at best - probably not angels) from Nazim I consider the rest of the targets worthy. However, I'm not a very nice person in many regards so it's easily justifiable for me. :P
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:12 pm

Sorry, but I just don't get you people. It's a video game. Play it to experience what it has to offer. You're not actually doing anything bad...
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:56 am

Only if your Roleplaying otherwise it's lost money.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:43 am

Dark Brotherhood are actually neutral. Assassins will take any side.. It is just which side pays them.. Sadly, the Evil Side is what normally pays them and that is why people think they are evil.

AS for the TG, they are closer to evil than the DBH cause they only want money for themselves and will hurt anybody.. Special people who are too poor to do what they ask for.. The DBH actually kills more rich people than poor cause rich people are the ones to cause trouble.. The poor don't do much to cause enough trouble for a DBH assassin to come after them.

Companions are Good. They want what is best for their home and helps other a lot but they do ask for money cause you gotta make a living.

The College is neutral. They tend to not to help others but they do not wish to harm others as well.

The majority of evil-quests are Daedric/Side quests. If you do a Daedric Quest for any of the Princes that are considered as Evil, like Mehrunes Dagon, then yeah. That is evil. (Please note there are some neutral/good Daedric Princes)
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:25 pm

Sorry, but I just don't get you people. It's a video game. Play it to experience what it has to offer. You're not actually doing anything bad...

Oh I here you and agree. When I play this game, I'm playing a story. Just like reading a good book but I'm the author forming the story to an extent. I don't enjoy or read horrors or books with an evil main character. I can turn on the news and get enough of that. I prefer stories where the hero/heroine overcomes self and the odds and is victorious (usually over evil). I use Skyrim as an active book.

Now I approach first and third person shooters differently. Grab a shotgun and a knife and go! But even in those games, in multiplayer modes, I will carry a medic pack so I can pick up my team members.

I think the OP has a point. I'd prefer the option to play the paladin or cleric. But again, I enjoy Skyrim. It's the first RPG-like game that I've played since Pools of Radiance and Drakken (for the Amiga). So I thank Bethesda for putting this out. Now this summer when Mechwarrior Online becomes active, I may disappear for a while :banana:
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:14 pm

Sorry, but I just don't get you people. It's a video game. Play it to experience what it has to offer. You're not actually doing anything bad...

Its a role playing game some people like to role play good characters. This game should offer that option.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:58 pm

Sorry, but I just don't get you people. It's a video game. Play it to experience what it has to offer. You're not actually doing anything bad...

I sort of agree. I'd experience everything the game has done well at least once. The main quest and four factions are fun playthroughs, the daedric quests are really cool and offer you the coolest artifacts the game has to offer, and many miscellaneous quests and dunegons have interesting backstories and sometimes they offer perminent boosts. If you're playing through the game as a noble hero and like suprises, then I'd hold off on finishing these for the sake of keeping your game fresh and exciting. But before you put the game down, just try them at least once. Even if it's on easy and you rush through them, it's good stuff. There's not a whole lot to it, but I'm a huge fan of the elder scrolls lore so it's exciting meeting these daedric princes and finding out how the hero of Skyrim will effect Tamriel's future.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:12 am

Sorry, but I just don't get you people. It's a video game. Play it to experience what it has to offer. You're not actually doing anything bad...
I don't care what anyone says on this matter and I don't care what psychiatrists say on this matter one can't blame every horrible act one does in a game as "role playing" or make believe. I've met enough people and learned enough about human nature in my lifetime to believe that there is something inside that allows one to justify horrible things done in a game. There is no real way to prove or disprove my belief using the scientific method so it will always remain a theory.
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