I feel like i'm the center of the universe in pretty much ever RPG i've played.

the center of the universe here is the maker of the game . or as i call him the creator . like god in lile if you believe in god it says that god made the universe in 6 days well

the makers of the game are not gods but with some good hardware they have at hands they are getting much better at it .

god didnt make this world so we suffer in it . there was a pleasure for him to make it . from the atheist point of view nature lived and created all living things

because those livings things want to live .

u am sad to say that am not a creator my self . i live in an area of the world where is doomed for extinction , the middle east . i dont want to talk long about my youth am 42 yo

now but i saw all this coming . devastating wars was to ravage our worlds every 10 years as an average that has been the issue for a 100 years now . we suffered our fathers suffered

our grand father suffered i havent seen such thing before i mean yes world war 2 took 50 millions but only lasted 5 years

they depression and operation generation after generation made us mad and made our land melt like hell and sorrow made flesh sweet , making it fertile for the come back of the omen

yes dont be surprised we believe anything these days . 2012 , appearance of angels prophets or demons we are being torn apart here while the world see us as a coliseum or a rich cnn news bulletin

in our holly book i like a part when it says beware of the day when life becomes hell and the fuel will be people and stones (u think he means oil )

am sad i took a decision not have a family my mother wanted it me to have a family but she is old and she dose not know the evils of this era i just wanted to avoid

my kids a bad life spawn my world isnt healthy anymore for human consumption as they say on expired goods

well back to topic the creator of the game is manually the painter , he now finds great joy in trapping us in his painting its a bit like the

quest of
The Mind of Madness

imagine what a painter like van gogh will do if he knew he can make a painting similar to the creation of the world and

have millions of souls coming in and out his painting . i think he would go mad for such an idea

its nice to be in such worlds to me and it has a magical effect on me being able to drift from my misery reality

its like there is one good thing about gaming
When it Hits, You Feel No Pain

its ok i call the game makers the creators when am in game specially the painters . i owe them much respect

but i dont pray for them either

Feel? me? the center of the universe? no, no, I am all of the universe, the universe is me.
Is this a bad or good thing? I'm indifferent to such concepts. Do I need any type of attention?
No. I love myself, the universe and I give myself enough attention, thank you very much.

Nothing seems to move without your approval in Skyrim. For example, you can load yourself up with quests and postpone them all for a few weeks to do some random dungeon crawling. Later you can get back to them and no one will care, as if you never disappeared for a few weeks. I don't like that.

In Daggerfall, even though everyone stood around all the time you got a sense that everyone had a busy schedule. There are time limits attached to ALL quests - even the main ones - and if you run out of time, the job is forfeit. Sometimes quests will update on their own even if you don't do anything. Accept a job to clear out a dungeon, for example, and you may be sent a letter from your boss a day later that asks you to find a special piece of jewelry while you're at it.

In Daggerfall, if you take a job to protect someone from a group of assassins at night and complete the job, the person will like you more - but the Dark Brotherhood will like you less. If you are in with the Dark Brotherhood, you will at least be reduced in rank, or probably expelled.

In Daggerfall, sometimes when you are recommended to do an odd job for somebody, you will approach the person later and they will tell you they've hired someone else and you're too late. Annoying? Maybe, if you have no patience. I personally see depth in this.

Skyrim doesn't have any of this kind of autonomy in its world, and this detracts from the experience IMO.

Lately, I've been wondering if the writers themselves are like really... abused and traumatized people. Like they can't help but see everyone as demeaning or something, so they write characters this way. I mean, even the little kid Haming talks mad sh*t.

Have you tried CHIM? You might like it.

Ok, that's got to be one of the deepest replies I've seen in a long time. You touched so many topics there I wouldn't know where to start. I know I would love to just sit down with you at some coffee shop and talk for a few hours. I have a feeling it would be enlightening to both of us. But all I can say is I wish you well. My son is an Army Combat Medic serving in the Mid-East now and he's trying to help but there is just so much bad history there. Really sad as no one should have to live that way.

I get your theory of the game becoming a virtual reality world (Matrix anyone?). I must admit that many times when I get home from real life work I can't wait to escape into Skyrim. Course as these games get more and more realistic it will be easier to do this. I have to wonder if my own grandchildren will even want to live in the real world?

I've tried such lucid dreaming, yes. Nice for brief off-time to the daily chores of being a second head to a slumbering body.

thank you sir , well we still have the private message service . my father was a medic soldier in the Syrian army and did have his share
of the massacres back at the 60s as he went back home running by him self and his hair turned all white over night . we as humans here had never had the chance to recover we are legally a living dead in this century stuck in the battle between god and the devil as concepts
but the world dosnt seem to know who is who and which and which .

i hop a safe come back for you son home and to rapidly complete his service is this evil and hazardous area


i think its good bad as much its true as you feel it . the human soul or sub consonance is so unlimited
its the place where came prophets and science , its as big and as undiscovered as the universe it self
like if the universe is not only out side us but inside us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QPll-TKaEE

What do you mean? I AM the center of the universe!
(Unfortunately, just in the game, though ...)

I can slaughter dragons and absorb their souls, I've saved the world on multiple occasions, can clear forts with ease and at the end of the day return to my manor where my wife and housecarl are waiting for me. So yeah, I kinda do!

Well, as many have said before, I do get the feeling that nothing happens without my character being present, or even in some cases without my character's consent. The utter lack of dragons prior to Dragon Rising is an example, although I'm glad it's like that. Personally, I only do that quest on very few, specific characters so as to retain a sense of anonymity and humbleness.

Now, that's the problem. Problems are kind of the main focus of discussion on RPG forums, I've found, but at least for me this problem has a fairly simple solution - which is what I mentioned above. Don't go and make yourself the Dragonborn and don't work your way up all the way in organizations if it can be avoided. Sometimes you have to make things up to stay "low", but I suppose that's the cruel reality of it. Self-imposed limitations even in advancement.

Additionally, I find myself ignoring much of what characters say. I can deal with fetching someone's sword back from this 'n' that bandit camp, but it's not really realistic to go on your merry way and clear out an entire coven of witches just because someone asked you to. Another thing that helps is saving particular events for future characters. Of course you're going to feel like the centre of the universe if you rise alarmingly quickly to lead two factions and then proceed to solve every problem in five different cities. I haven't even been to Dawnstar yet for this reason; I'm saving it.

I suppose you could call it conservation. Storing parts of the game in invisible boxes so you can ultimately enjoy the game much longer, without feeling like a god.

still strange why u claim the entity of the game , its evil man . what about bioshock game ? do u kill little girls for plasma ?
games are like movies most have pre made characters like captain Blair in wing commander .

is it just because you control the movement ure buddy think ure the character ? try changing character six then ..

funny you mentioned , its already a reality to me . the environment around me is not stable , many noise problems and so .
many times while i play my main problem was my buddy that is out side the game .. and i thought haw the guys got killed
while their buddy's were out side the virtual world in the movie . my 23 monitor can really svck my senses inside ..

ohh soon i will need a new pc this machine served me well since 2009 , it could have lasted longer but they shifted to utilize the quad cores
faster than i thought in the new games . am broke the new pc will cost a fortune .

Yep, I do the same thing ... learned it after my first playthru of Oblivian. I'm still in my first playthru with Skyrim (over 400 hrs.) and am maybe waist deep in the DB and knee deep (??) in the MQ. All of the other majors will wait for future characters where the stories they offer fit appropriately. Side quests are similar. I only do a few here and there that fit my character's story and their motives. Like you said, I'll still have plenty of Skyrim to discover in both this and future playthrus.

Given my playstyle, I in no way feel overly special when in the general population, nor expect to be treated as such. Other than the occassional guard's comments suggesting they have telepathy, I seem to be treated as a wandering adventurer that, given many able-bodied fighters are involved in a civil war, might prove of some use to some people (when public services are less available, people are more likely to seek help from the private sector). A lot of those people get turned down.

If I accept a quest but know it'll be awhile before I get to it, and since I don't have an actual dialogue prompt to say so, I just imagine telling the people such upfront.

Yes, I believe so, and I feel it is a bad thing when done without heavy moderation. It creates too much of a fake and artificial feel to the game, and makes it seem like the world cannot move on, or accomplish anything without the player character. The world is largely static, and nothing random or unexpected really happens without either the player's permission, or the player knowing immediately.

I feel more like a pawn rather than the center of the universe in Skyrim, nothing really changes. I have to help people with repetitive tasks that really could have just been accomplished by them if they really cared for it. personally I don't think my character even reflects my own mind-set, the dialog seems more like it's for brainless treasure junkies that only seem like they want gold. to me it seemed like there were very few polite or intellectual dialog options.
The problem I have with story line is just that in a way you're thrust into great importance from nothing, Oblivion worked because you started out as nothing then became a real hero to the people. In skyrim you're supposed to be the "hero" but everyone treats you like a Chicken Chaser. no matter how many factions you belong to it doesn't seem to matter to people that much with only certain people caring who then will either hate your guts even though you've been nice to them and haven't wronged them or kind of treat you like a little brother/sister or in other words a "special" person.
it get's even worse when you work with Dedra or gods which usually end up just treating you like a sack of potatoes then decide that since you did their laundry they might as well give you something for your trouble. it's especially maddening because most of those quest require me to do something I think is immoral but there's no way around it which is the same with other quests.
I don't really care about gold yet no matter what the only dialog options I can choose are ones where my character is like "give me the gold! I want the gold!" All I care about is saving the world gold means nothing to me. so to some it up, no I don't feel like I'm the center of everything but I do feel like the only one who's not lazy enough to do something.

you are and always will be the center of the universe