Vote for BethesdaSkyrim in March Mayhem! : V - Skyrim

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:43 pm

Playing offline with Steam-downloaded games is totally feasible, yes it is. Except that after two weeks it will force you to reconnect to steam even when you prompt it to play offline. Now that could have been a bug back in the day and they fix it since. Yet I still come across posts on other game forms about the same thing. Game will not start with out connecting to steam first, then going to offline again. So I can only assume since I don’t game on my gaming pc do to my wife broke it now that its still there.

You ever hear that old saying about what happens when you assume?

There are ways around that, if connecting to the internet makes you that upset (and to be fair, I don't really understand why you'd have a problem with it in the first place). And I haven't heard of that happening with playing Skyrim in Offline Mode.

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:30 am

Playing offline with Steam-downloaded games is totally feasible, yes it is. Except that after two weeks it will force you to reconnect to steam even when you prompt it to play offline. Now that could have been a bug back in the day and they fix it since. Yet I still come across posts on other game forms about the same thing. Game will not start with out connecting to steam first, then going to offline again. So I can only assume since I don’t game on my gaming pc do to my wife broke it, that its still there.

I didn't have internet access for over a month last year due to working abroad and I could play KotoR on Steam without problems.

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:28 am

lol @ people who dislike bethesda. Why do you frequent these boards? Misery loves company, I guess?

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:55 pm

lol @ people who dislike bethesda. Why do you frequent these boards? Misery loves company, I guess?

we dont hate beth... most of us love beth even though they keep releasing buggy games and then its usually upto users to fix the things, were only annoyed with beth for using steam due to its draconian methods.

I don't really understand how DRM is such an assault on your freedoms. It doesn't force you to do anything, and it's made patch delivery and application a ton more efficient.

because when you buy a game a REAL game its supposed to be YOURS to do with as you please... ie destroy/give away/sell

steam tied games arnt...

you cant sell your games off if you've finished them or dont want them anymore,

you have to have steam installed to play/install.

imagine if say microsoft but a clause in when you buy a eggbox360 or any eggbox games. you cant sell it/them or give it away/sell them.. do you think there would be a gaming uproar?

at least with windows live you could resell your games you bought from a retail outlet.

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:26 am

because when you buy a game a REAL game its supposed to be YOURS to do with as you please... ie destroy/give away/sell

steam tied games arnt...

you cant sell your games off if you've finished them or dont want them anymore,

you have to have steam installed to play/install.

imagine if say microsoft but a clause in when you buy a eggbox360 or any eggbox games. you cant sell it/them or give it away/sell them.. do you think there would be a gaming uproar?

Bad news, tiger. You actually agree to an EULA that specifically forbids giving away or re-selling your game (unless you're re-selling to an authorized retailer) every time you buy a game for any platform.

All Steam does is actually create an enforcement tool for legal terms that you've already been agreeing to.

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:54 am

vote?

no...
why vote?
accomplishes nothing, id rather spend time here, helping others, and trying to give suggestions on how the game could improve and give credit to beth for the many things theyve done well...

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:48 am

Not sure if you guys were too busy arguing on here to notice, but Beth lost the vote. I stand by Valve in this tournament because Portal has never given me a single glitch or bug and got me through the PSN outage. Does that make it a better game and Valve a better company? Not necessarily, but I does show less developer oversight.

Edit: typos

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:29 am

because when you buy a game a REAL game its supposed to be YOURS to do with as you please... ie destroy/give away/sell

steam tied games arnt...

you cant sell your games off if you've finished them or dont want them anymore,

you have to have steam installed to play/install.

imagine if say microsoft but a clause in when you buy a eggbox360 or any eggbox games. you cant sell it/them or give it away/sell them.. do you think there would be a gaming uproar?

at least with windows live you could resell your games you bought from a retail outlet.

Software isn't a car or an apple. You're actually just buying a locence, and that's not only for games. Software development differs heavily from manufacturing hardware in terms of sale. I understand that's sometimes different to understand for people, but it's the way the industry works and survives. A licence allows you to use a certain piece of software, you don't necessarily own the same rights as if you bought a cell phone.

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:48 pm

Well when I did have a gaming computer any game that has steam or valve required. Sorry put back and on to the next game. Sorry will not buy any program that requires me to have a third party software on my system.

Let me ask you people who love **** like this, what happens if the system like steam cashes for what ever reason. All the games you bought are gone. After a few weeks steam comes back online yet your games are still gone. Steam says all there customer data was lost and have no way of knowing who had what. To get your games you had back you have to send a list of the games, DLC, mods or what ever to steam with proof that you had purchased them in the first place. Do you have any way to prove you had those game? Nope.

Or

Lets say Steam goes under for what ever reason and there is no longer steam. Then you lost all of those games and will never get them back. The game disks that you do have will not work do to you cant connect to steam or will work for about two weeks then your steam component on your computer will tell you to connect to steam to update, yet do to steam is gone your cant making you game disk worthless.

Yeah yeah, and the world is going to end this november, because the Mayans didn't bother to continue creating their calendar out past 2012. They likely ran out of funding for the project, or their civilization died out first, or they figured they'd stretched it out far enough and just lost interest. :biggrin:

These lamo 'OMG what if Valve goes under and Steam dies!?!' scenarios are of that same caliber. If, and that's a mighty freakin' big IF, such a thing ever happened, there would very likely be simple things done that allowed people to continue playing there games just fine, with no problems whatsoever, Steam or no Steam. I'm not in the least worried about it.

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:26 pm

Vote for Beth, show them that they've come along way from Nascar and Terminator, you DO want more TES like games don't you?

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:14 am

Vote for Beth, show them that they've come along way from Nascar and Terminator, you DO want more TES like games don't you?

I'd vote for more TES games with Valve's exceptional quality, sure!

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:58 am

Well, this discussion is kind of pointless now, you know because Valve won.
I'm a bit sad that Mojang lost to Bioware, hopefully Valve will win.

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:55 pm

mojang lost to Bioware....LOLOL

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:47 pm

Bad news, tiger. You actually agree to an EULA that specifically forbids giving away or re-selling your game (unless you're re-selling to an authorized retailer) every time you buy a game for any platform.

All Steam does is actually create an enforcement tool for legal terms that you've already been agreeing to.

its ok cub... i'd call it a "forced" agreed if you want to play retail games, its nice your in love with steam but im not from my own experiences of steam being an unfair draconian system.

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:21 pm

its ok cub... i'd call it a "forced" agreed if you want to play retail games, its nice your in love with steam but im not from my own experiences of steam being an unfair draconian system.

Yes, the agreement is forced if you want to play games. Just like you're "forced" to not speed when you drive and you're "forced" to not breach contracts.

Steam is only "draconian" if you intend to violate the agreements that were already in place on retail games. There is nothing about Steam that places additional limitations on your game-playing ability.

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:48 pm

Yes, the agreement is forced if you want to play games. Just like you're "forced" to not speed when you drive and you're "forced" to not breach contracts.

your not forced not to speed when you drive nothing is stoping you.. i can get in my car right now and speed, not a good example to justify your point.

Steam is only "draconian" if you intend to violate the agreements that were already in place on retail games. There is nothing about Steam that places additional limitations on your game-playing ability.

if i intend to violate the "FORCED agreement" should i wish to play steam based games, if i bought a 2nd hand steam game then there is a limitation to me playing it.

lets not skirt around the issue shall we?

a part of steam is here to prevent people selling the games THEY legally paid for or if YOU wish the "licence" into the second hand games market.

why doesnt microsoft and sony do the same? ie give a serial per game that can only be registered once per customer account on XL/PN thus stoping reselling as well?

they wont because there would be an gobal gaming uproar, its done on the pc because they CAN get away with it not as some say to save PC gaming or not doing it will kill pc gaming which is BS.