Friendly AI broken? (poss spoils)

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:13 am

I had to turn down the difficulty and go in as a Light to finish that level. After the difficulty drop and faster run speed it was no problem to get to the end before a few enemies got there and the enemy will not auto headshot as much on easy.
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Mackenzie
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:10 am

now i figured I'd go back and finish the campaigns. second campaign for security, my team ai gets the data key, then they all split up and take different routes (and get killed) i try to follow but the carrier runs full steam into the enemy before i can support him and take down the enemy ai

next pass i let them get the data key (because they take it before i can) and i camp the safe so i can pick it up the next time. when i get it, me teammates run full steam away from me as if i'm about to explode

upon the multiple times trying run the key i'm noticing my team ai engineers have been placing turrets in completly random location

also, turrets are messed up and dont shoot anyone

was doing everything on medium, set the mission to easy to see of that helped, no effect

Change into a Light on Easy mode. There is a better chance of outrunning the enemy. I managed to finish it because of that, lol. :D
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bonita mathews
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:20 am

Change into a Light on Easy mode. There is a better chance of outrunning the enemy. I managed to finish it because of that, lol. :D


Its terrible that you had to.. Not gana lie. Wish i could show the support for better friendly AI to SD. Seems to me that enough people have a problem with it, that it should AT LEAST be an option. Make the current setting a default, and call it "Heroic Mode" because thats basically it. You have to be the single, solo bashing face mashing hero who pushes the team through objective after objective, single handedly completing them against impossible odds and, though it could be rewarding to do this, its not fun because its forced. I just want a good fair match, not be a solo parade VS insanely good and deadly AI who know your the only thing thats gana be a possible threat. As other s have mentioned, I'm good, but not that good...
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:36 am

my experience has been that my bots are good enough at trying to complete objectives. however, they get slaughtered by the enemy bots. i will slowly escort my bots to the objective, then begin hacking (thats the one that is usually the hardest for me with bots) and my entire team of bots will get slaughtered by one or two enemies. i am then left by myself and usually die. by the time i get back to the objective i have to start the hack over. in my opinion, on normal, two teams of bots should be evenly matched. on easy, my bots should be slightly better than enemy bots, and on hard the reverse. i havent had many problems with bot completing objectives, just with them covering me while i complete them. mainly the hack objectives bc they do seem to svck at those for some reason.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:43 am

I agree with everything the OP said. Your team's AI is just [censored] stupid, and it really is the breaking point for me since I can't play online atm.
Why can't my team rush an objective or do anything the enemy does for that matter? Was just playing the Black Box mission and got all the way to the end and my team failed. If i was lucky enough to get to the objective, I had to hold off the whole enemy team by myself because i was waiting for an opp, Now I've read that the AI wants you to complete the objectives but I could care less. This is suppose to be team based gameplay is it not?? Well waiting for me to complete the objectives is not very team like to me. Also the buffs I buff everyone on my team but do i get buffed NOPE!!

Also if some miracle happens to where I have my whole team at the objective, about half if not all of them run off to caputre command posts...

Seriouslly I love this game and it's new break through gameplay but your Team's AI is what will make me sell this game
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:49 am

i started offline (pc version) did the first campaign for security, then did the objectives (at first all but be more objective **) went online and played around till lvl 10, then went back for (be more) and managed to beat it after about 4 hours spent on it (RAGE)

now i figured I'd go back and finish the campaigns. second campaign for security, my team ai gets the data key, then they all split up and take different routes (and get killed) i try to follow but the carrier runs full steam into the enemy before i can support him and take down the enemy ai

next pass i let them get the data key (because they take it before i can) and i camp the safe so i can pick it up the next time. when i get it, me teammates run full steam away from me as if i'm about to explode

upon the multiple times trying run the key i'm noticing my team ai engineers have been placing turrets in completly random location

also, turrets are messed up and dont shoot anyone

was doing everything on medium, set the mission to easy to see of that helped, no effect

Normal difficulty.

Medium body because I hadn't unlocked Light yet, and am terrible as a heavy.

Level 6.

I won that mission first time. It was the third run before I managed to actually get the data to the terminal, the first being taken by an AI because I got incapped in front of the objective and the Soldier who was "guarding" me decided to be helpful. A friendly Medic came to revive me instead of escorting the important guy, so I got back up about the same time the case was returned - jackpot! until I ran headlong into the entire enemy team... Oops. Mossington was my friend as a Medium, and even moreso in this mission. The reason the 3rd run succeeded was a combination of a well-timed Health CP capture by a friend, a fresh Health boost from a Medic, and the fact that I now actually knew where to go.

Anyone gets in your way, back up, wait behind the corner with your shotgun. If they cut the corner close, knock them on their backs and step in for the melee before they know what hit them. If not, 2 - 3 blasts should still put them down. duck back and reload in case more enemies come, and be prepared to slide and evade LOTS.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:56 am

I've noticed while playing on Easy that it's basically still the same.

Your AI act like 5 year olds
Enemy AI act like GODS

Pure and simple, it makes doing some missions pretttttty impossible. I don't get why they don't do ANYTHING. I'm serious.

I've caught SEVERAL bots just standing there... like a mission with a VIP when we need a Medic once, we had TWO MEDICS just STARING OFF INTO SPACE for some idiolic reasons? I'm serious they were just standing there like an actual Human who went idle to take a dump or something... like a STATUE.

This and the lag issues are my only gripe really. I don't see how they could just make the enemy soooo intelligent, and our AI like 5yr old snot nosed thumb svcking idiots..?
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