This one sounds fun, he shall be good at speech, and get others to do his fighting for him, I shall call him . . . Dave.

the game is still gonna be awesome and more challenging, i expect FO4 to NOT have an ending simply because of todd howards statement when asked what lesson they learned from FO3 he said "to not let the game end" bethesda has a different game philopshy, their games are more openended and allow the player to determine the ending etc. obsidian obviously has a different philosophy, they could of made the game different but chose not to, the game is still gonna be good because they know the shortcomings of FO3 like a faulty skill/perk,special system which made FO3 too easy after level 15 or so, but we will see how the reception the ending gets when we get to play the game, if the ending svcks, i probably won't ever do the last. i voided the last quest in FO3 until BS came out, i just never did it until then. so thats my strategy.

A Fiver says we will be seeing this until the next Fallout game is announced.



Count me in.

Personally, I'm a fan of the concept of a definitive ending in a Fallout game. Really, that's what totally blew my mind the first time I played Fallout 1 way back in my college years - the thought that the game had actually been keeping track of what I'd been doing (or more accurately - given the illusion that it was keeping tabs on every single little thing,) and then applying those actions to fairly satisfying (and often surprising) consequences, for a nice bit of closure at the end of the game.

Sure, I'd prefer to have all of that, and just keep on playing, and be able to explore more about all these consequences. But the only game I've known to even attempt that sort of thing was Mass Effect - and it really takes a whole other game to be able to accomplish.

To me, the ending wrap-up is one of those things that I feel is distinctly an iconic element of the "Fallout experience." I thought the Fallout 3 end was pretty good, as a videogame, but less than I was expecting for a Fallout game. So hopefully Obsidian will be able to live up to the lofty expectations I have for them in this area.

The only qualifier I'd put on that would be regarding DLC - I don't personally like having to reload an earlier save just to play some extra content that I downloaded. If they come out with New Vegas DLC at some point, I'd hope that they'd come up with a way to expand into a post-game experience.

well i hate that there will be a definite ending because i like to explore and i mainly focus on doing the main quest first in fallout 3 and i beat it already and im still exploring there is still places that i have not discovered missions i have not completed but since there is going to be a definite ending there is most likely not going to be expansions....

The sidequests affect the ending. Better to get them done first.

The expansions most likely will not extend the ending, but will probably add to the ending itself; my guess. Steam makes it too easy to pass up the option of DLC. (also my guess).

I really like the idea, and look forward to it like the end of a great fireworks display; lots of surprises and then the big finale.
(Be a shame IMO if the fireworks went on randomly all year with no end )