Archive Invalidation randomly giving up the ghost? : Fallout: New Vegas

» Tue May 17, 2011 10:42 am

So there's been this issue with my game where it seems that AII randomly shuts itself off ingame(or so it looks like), meaning I am all of suddenly getting pink hair, plasma rifles shooting exclamation points and mismatched land textures etc. Basicly, everything that's modded is FUBAR.
Any ideas what's causing this? :blink:

It usually happens after like 20 minutes of gameplay and everything in game looks like this:

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1960/screenshot62l.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6273/screenshot63d.jpg

I am using the old ArchiveInvalidation.bsa(renamed to AII!.bsa) from F3 which worked before and the SArchiveList path in my Fallout.ini looks like this:

SArchiveList=Fallout - Meshes.bsa, Fallout - Voices1.bsa, Fallout - Sound.bsa, Fallout - Misc.bsa, AII!.bsa, Fallout - Textures.bsa, Fallout - Textures2.bsa

Not sure if it helps but here's my load order:

Spoiler

FalloutNV.esm
Fallout Ammo Pack NV.esm
Moddable Unique Weps.esm
BinocularsOverhaul.esm
Military NV Backpacks.esm
SCAV.esm
ClassicPack.esm
Advanced Recon Tech.esm
Purge Cell Buffers.esp
Bullet Impact Increased LOD.esp
The Chicken and the Egg.esp
hyper1on's ReMesh Mod.esp
IIWR 2.1.0.esp
DarNifiedUINV.esp
RasRepairAll.esp
Compiled Patch.esp
Nevada Skies.esp
CONELRAD 640-1240.esp
SecretStash80.esp
NewVegasBounties.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp
dD-Less Screen Blood Time.esp
BoxFix.esp
ReloadBugFix.esp
MisterSandmanFix.esp
Calm_Heart_Fix.esp
six Try.esp
Machienzo-RadioNewVegasFixv11.esp
L38Aggressivefix.esp
DonationFix.esp
Karma Fix - NCRCF Powder Ganger.esp
KillingKarmaFix.esp
Melody Dialogue Fix.esp
CorporalFarberQuestFix.esp
I Fought the Law Workaround.esp
JBrightExodusFix.esp
Followers-NCR Alliance Fix.esp
Vance's Gun Quest Patch.esp
NiptonFixes.esp
PitFightFix.esp
Atomic Wrangler Suite Fix.esp
CampMCFix 1.1.esp
Mojave Outpost HQ Missing Terminals Fix v1.2.esp
Fix - Recharger Rifle Stats Changed.esp
Fix - Laser Rifle Beam Splitter Item Mod v1.esp
Weathered10mmFixed.esp
Weathered10mmProfessional.esp
SturdyCaravanShotgunSurgeon.esp
MercGrenadeRifleDemoPyro.esp
UnarmedAndMelee-PerkFix.esp
UnarmedWeaponsFix.esp
PCIdles.esp
no blur on hit.esp
Improved VATS and Autoaim fix (no VATS invincibility, no binoculars).esp
Closer To Fallout - True Threshold.esp
Realistic Death & Dismemberment Physics.esp
realistic headshots.esp
No Neos 1_0.esp
CorpseEquip.esp
Mercy Killing Karma v2.0.esp
Kobu's Free Wild Wasteland Trait.esp
UnderwaterFX.esp
Advanced Recon Tech-Power Armor.esp
ArmourRepairKits.esp
Remove That Glove - NV.esp
Canteen.esp
UsableCigarettes.esp
Glow Sticks.esp
Bobblehunt.esp
Nuka Cola Enhanced.esp
DK_BulletTime_NV.esp
Melee Lock-On.esp
NVPhalanx.esp
Comp_Idles_NV.esp
dressup.esp
Presets.esp
WearableScar.esp
MediumBeard.esp
Receding Hairstyle.esp
Realistic Preorder-Classic.esp
T3T_MiscItemIconsNV.esp
Grave_Digger_v021.esp
Craftables.esp
iL-Teddy Bears.esp
Alexscorpion'sNVG.esp
DeadlierExplosivesNV.esp
ShotgunPerformance.esp
EnergyWeaponDeNerf.esp
Sniper Zoom x2.esp
AntiMateriel Zoom x4 With Nightvision.esp
Cowboy_Plus_ThatGun_and_Machete.esp
.223 Pistol.esp
GaussRifleRebore_OldEffects.esp
hz_BAMR.esp
Lever Rifle fire rate slow.esp
F03weaponpack_v1_14.esp
Homemade Grenades.esp
This Machine New Sound.esp
PlasmaRifleAwesomefied.esp
JM1Garand4Loot.esp
guitar.esp
DWPPC357_NV.esp
Classic Glock 86 Plasma Pistol.esp
Classic Wattz 1000 Laser Pistol.esp
Classic Wattz 2000 Laser Rifle.esp
Classic M72 Gauss Rifle.esp
Classic HK L30 Gatling Laser (non-replacer, holster).esp
Hereticus Faction Armors Fading.esp
WETS NV Space Suit.esp
Starke's Seperate Chinese Stealth Armor Helmet NV (OA Version).esp
KnuckleBeatGlovesCHT.esp
Eyepatch.esp
ZCPA_NV_v1.0.esp
Armored PA Gloves.esp
Brotherhood Armor.esp
Playablebetterhood.esp
Tailor Maid - NV.esp
w44Satchels - Full.esp
UrgeWasterScarf.esp
PimpMyScarf.esp
improved_glasses.esp
improved_shades.esp
Sunglasses Shipment.esp
SmertStuff.esp
RCSS.esp
Journeyman Armor.esp
Warlord Armor.esp
Boomers - T-57c PA.esp
DragonskinTacticalOutfit.esp
DragonskinBonusPack.esp
DragonskinNCRPersonnelWearingOutfits.esp
NewStripMapMarkers.esp
populatedcasino.esp
RefinedCasinoPeople&Suits.esp
UrgeAbandonedShackHome.esp
UrgeScavengerShack.esp
aaaJNFCamp.esp
Military NV Backpacks - Blank's Container Patch.esp
PortableCampsite.esp
ssstudio.esp
FewPosesMore NVedition.esp
Slave In Pose NV Edition.esp
NBstoryposes.esp
ObjectPoses.esp
CreaturePoses.esp
PairPoses.esp
The Groovatron.esp
The Groovatron_DLC_Anch_Addon.esp
The Groovatron_DLC_Pitt_Addon.esp
The Groovatron_DLC_PL_Addon.esp
My Merged Patch 1.esp

Well, thanks in advance!

Smert

» Tue May 17, 2011 4:32 am

Well this is odd... it seems like I came to the conclusion, albeit a weird one.

After reinstalling the game and all the mods I was enabling stuff one by one to see where's the problem.

Here I have these animation mods on bottom of my new load order:

Groovatron + components.(just changed the master to FalloutNV.esm, worked for me before this problem)
NB Story poses(same as above)
Backsteppo's Pair, Creature and Object poses(same as above)
Lost Rider's New Vegas 'Few More' and slave poses

Now if I enable Groovatron and the components(that's 4 .esp files) and 2(!) additional .esp animations only, everything works fine. BUT if I keep adding another, I will suddenly get exclamation points everywhere and game then crashes.

EDIT: God, I think I got it. It seems like I've hit some sort of a mod cap or something. When the mods exceed the A1(that's after 99-9F in FOMM) mod order, I start getting exclamation points and stuff...

This is quite weird because I did NOT hit the 255 data files limit at all..

:blink:

» Tue May 17, 2011 10:42 am

For a game thats out for only a month or so you sure got an awful lot of mods installed allready...

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:37 am

For a game thats out for only a month or so you sure got an awful lot of mods installed allready...

Yeeeeesh, it started only with some essential bugfixes... then I saw the weapons... the armor.. the teddy bears... and my vanilla NV was over. :cryvaultboy:

Anyhooo, I still can't wrap my head around the mod limit. It was 255 in F3 and Oblivion right? Does my PC performance actually affect this too? Memory perhaps?

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:59 am

For a game thats out for only a month or so you sure got an awful lot of mods installed allready...

Fairly certain I'm running quite a bit more. I believe I had something like 500 mods in Fallout 3, obviously I had to get creative with merging stuff together to bypass the esp. limit.

I've had a similar issue, though only with ground textures. Basically they look absolutely horrible, they look like LOD textures, and then after a while they load properly and look fine. I have no idea what causes it though.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:13 am

I get weird graphical glitches at times as well; what type of video card do you use? My issues are usually related to my card (as it is a little bit faulty wrt memory), sometimes minimising/maximising will solve the glitches as it redraws.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:02 pm

I get weird graphical glitches at times as well; what type of video card do you use? My issues are usually related to my card (as it is a little bit faulty wrt memory), sometimes minimising/maximising will solve the glitches as it redraws.

Geforce 320M GT, with 1 gig of memory.

Actually, when I got rid of some unnecessary mods thus lowering the mod order number, the problem *went* away. Apparently. But this mod limit is so... confusing! :brokencomputer:

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:10 am

On an archive invalidation, was there a recent update? I noticed my invalidation no longer works, when I was updating it. Sadly, I didnt backup my old ini file.

» Tue May 17, 2011 11:00 am

The Groovatron_DLC_Anch_Addon.esp
The Groovatron_DLC_Pitt_Addon.esp
The Groovatron_DLC_PL_Addon.esp

:huh:

You're using add-ons for FO3 DLC in NEw Vegas? Is that because New Vegas includes some DLC content?

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:57 pm

There is a mod on nexus that adds dlc content to new vegas. With one caveat, you have to own the dlc. You do a wee bit of file shuffling, and the modder adds it into new vegas, with a few tweaks where necessary to get it working.

» Tue May 17, 2011 8:25 am

On an archive invalidation, was there a recent update? I noticed my invalidation no longer works, when I was updating it. Sadly, I didnt backup my old ini file.

I don't think there was an update whatsoever. I only know that the latest official NV patch broke the old SarchiveList order, so I had to use the one mentioned in my first post. :shrug:

:huh:

You're using add-ons for FO3 DLC in NEw Vegas? Is that because New Vegas includes some DLC content?

Yep! Well only the animations for Groovatron. I was kinda surprised at the fact that NV even included the hillbilly dance from Point Lookout and the rest of the animations from all DLCs. :laugh:

Anyway, this problems seems to be back. Exclamation marks for modded stuff popping up everywhere

I just.... don't get it. I cut off the animations from the load order, that's like nine files.

FewPosesMore NVedition.espSlave In Pose NV Edition.espNBstoryposes.espObjectPoses.espPairPoses.espCreaturePoses.espThe Groovatron.espThe Groovatron_DLC_Anch_Addon.espThe Groovatron_DLC_Pitt_Addon.espThe Groovatron_DLC_PL_Addon.esp

And exclamation marks went away.... how am I supposed to understand this? Does this mean that *something* keeps devouring my New Vegas and lowers the mod limit or what?