Two Seattle cocktail waiters were fired because they did not want to serve a strawberry daiquiri to a pregnant women.

Would you favor laws that would prevent or restrict pregnant women from smoking, drinking alcohol, or abusing drugs?

What would be your most important argument for such laws? On the other hand, what would be the most powerful argument against such laws?

If you were throwing a party, would you serve alcohol to a pregnant woman?

Pregnant girls should not be having alcohol/tabaco or drugs of any kind, it should be enforced as child abuse.

is it fair they were fired for this.... Lol Nope. i bet they will sue there employers.

They shouldn't drink, but, as there are no laws, I guess it's up to the individual. There are warning signs all around the bars of restaurants I have worked in, so it's not like the woman would be making an uninformed decision. This could be a push button topic due to beliefs on when is a baby considered a baby. If that makes any sense. It actually doesn't to me.

People get fired because they care about the customer's child's well being.

Good employees, horrible employers.

It shouldn't be inforced but the owner of the bar or the employees with a viable reason should be allowed to withhold their product.

Uhhhh, no. My mom smoke and drank her ass off with me, so I find myself lucky to be perfectly healthy. If someone wants to have a drink, that's fine, but don't endanger someones entire lifetime just for a few hours of some effect.

It's touchy.

Basically the unborn kid doesn't have many rights. If any. The female bearing the child decides for it.

In my opinion, if the child turns out [censored], she deserves it.

no. because its no one has the right to tell you what you can and can't do to your self.



she's still pregnant so technically there is no child to be abused.

No they shouldn't drink, however, it's legal for them to and you shouldn't be able to impose your views on others.

So if the woman was getting drunk off her ass you still wouldn't say anything?

What if this woman came into the bar everyday, pregnant, and got drunk? Would you still be silent about it?

Nope, its a dike move to potentially [censored] up a kids life before they are born. It shouldnt be allowed.

Yeah...no. If there was a women who was preggers, no drugs, tobacco, and alcohol of any kind at all. Even my mom, when she was a smoker, quit during her pregnancies.

The employees being fired for refusing to serve a pregnant women did not deserve to be fired at all, and the employer(s) is [censored] [censored].

hopefully it hurts their business for firing the servers

While alcohol is pretty much the worst of the terratigins, I do not support laws put in place restricting a person's free choice. That is nanny-state level, and plunging off a cliff. However, if a private business does not want to serve her, then that is their right.

And that's all I have to say about that.

This sounds like an issue of personal freedom. Enforcing someone to choose a healthy option, even if the intention are good, seems wrong. People need to be accountable for their on acts, and should be given freedom to be so, not be told by some law that they have no choice.

however. its stupid that they got fired. I would not have served her.

Just as long as it is green.

This is and is NOT an issue of PERSONAL freedom.

Sure, its okay for people to drink alcohol, but when it starts having the potential of affecting another person's life, let alone that of an UNBORN CHILD, then it becomes a matter of your "personal freedoms" infringing on another person's ability to potential live their life normally.

"I don't want ANYONE telling me what I can put into MY body." Sure, I agree with that argument, but you're also putting those things into the body of ANOTHER PERSON that's INSIDE OF YOU. This is NOT the matter of a person doing something alone, but with baggage alongside.

With that said, I do believe it should be illegal to drink while pregnant.

Considering that they were trying to care for the well being of the pregnant lady I would say they did a good job, and that they should definitely try to fight back. But there are no laws that say that a pregnant lady can not, in any means whatsoever drink alcohol. It is up to the individual to make the choice. The waiters shouldn't have been fired.

Maybe put up a sign on the window that says "Pregnant women will not be served alcohol." :tongue:

If there were laws that said pregnant women aren't allowed to drink alcohol, then there would be some uprising about our freedom of choice being taken away. It would be nice to see some, but I don't think it will really happen.

Edit- grammar

according to Google (used phrase "when is it safe for a pregnant woman to drink alcohol") drinking in moderation should be fine

apparently the studies on Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders (FASD). were based on heavy drinkers

source http://parentingsquad.com/yes-you-can-drink-while-pregnant

hell
no

Not true, there's still some debate on going as to what level of alcohol can in fact be toxic to the child. If you HAVE to gamble when even scientists are still debating it keep it to one drink a day, would be my unprofessional thought on the matter. But to be honest if you don't drink then your guaranteed it won't happen, it's that simple. There's always the odds other chemicals can hasten the effect and so much unknown variables, not too mention you can't keep a log book of perfectly where the fetus is in development to know how it will be affected. It's an entire persons life with all of that raw potential, do you WANT to gamble and have some drinks or just wait a few months until you know it's safe to drink again?

fair enough but being pregnant in of itself is a gamble as well.

Seeing as this was in the U.S. I'm not particularly entitled to comment on the laws but I wouldn't have fired them. If I were in their position I wouldn't have served her either. But luckily I live in Australia, that sort of crap just doesn't happen.

This.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/24/america-pregnant-women-murder-charges