problem with verifing game cache : Fallout: New Vegas

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:13 am

When responding to this please speak slowly and use small words as I am a computard....thanks.

So I started having problems with new vegas last week, kept getting corpses who were alive, live people who were corpses, npc who weren't where they were supossed to be....generally a bunch of wierdness that made the game unplayable. I thought, hey, maybe I should use steam to verify the game cache, make sure everything is okie dokie and all. It got 66% of the way done and said it found a bad file but it didn't download anything. I kept trying, and it kept getting to the same spot and kept not downloading anything even though it insisted it did. I have uninstalled multiple times since then. I have loaded from disk 3 times and let steam do it 4 times, and I have tried to uninstal and reinstall steam.....everytime I try to verify the game cache it gets to the same spot, with the same results....epic faliure....

Anyone have any suggestions? I would really like to finish the game but now I have crashes before I even finish the tutorial.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:38 am

For some reason, any time New Vegas' files are verified, it will always come up with one file to download. I'm not sure what it is, I'm not sure why it does that, I'm also not sure what's causing your problems.

You're running with no mods, yes?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:05 am

Nope, no mods for lil old me. It's too bad there seems to be nowhere else besides steam to download any patches from...I kinda miss the old days.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:28 am

Nope, no mods for lil old me. It's too bad there seems to be nowhere else besides steam to download any patches from...I kinda miss the old days.

Does the problem persist on all new games that you start?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:40 am

Yeah, but there are different things happening everytime. Like Sunny not telling me to go talk to the bartender after the tutorial, or the get meat for ncr mission and 2 of the people who they send ya to not having the dialog to complete the quest. Sometimes it is just like some random ncr guy that looks like an ash pile, but you can't loot him....if you sneak you can try to pickpocket him though....of course that never ends well. I kinda admit it is funny when I get to the snuff film victim and she is dancing there asking me if I like what I see....I guess I have a soft spot for undead hokers....

I have only seen the dancing undead girl twice, mainly because I don't bother playing that far when it seems like it is not working. I have seen the meat quest borked probably 4-5 times, that one seems to be every time I have tried it since the last patch...before I never saw that.

I had to reinstall Civ5 since I uninstalled steam. It needed to download something when I verified it, but it actually downloaded something since it actually showed a download speed and a precentage... but the speed for new vegas files is always 0 and it is aways done instantly. Something is obviously not working right...no clue how to fix it though.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:36 am

When the game verifier actually downloads files does it have a place where it stores temp files? Would deleting those files force it to actually get the files again? Does anyone know if this is indeed the case and where those files are stored and what they would look like? ( .ini .exe .hoseyourgame)

Any help would be/is apreciated....I would really like to be able to actually finish this version of the game at least once.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:49 pm

When the game verifier actually downloads files does it have a place where it stores temp files? Would deleting those files force it to actually get the files again? Does anyone know if this is indeed the case and where those files are stored and what they would look like? ( .ini .exe .hoseyourgame)

Any help would be/is apreciated....I would really like to be able to actually finish this version of the game at least once.

Go into your steam directory and look for a gamevalidation.log
THis file should tell you what file is failing to verify.
There is a common issue where 1 file will always fail to verify no matter what.
Its not game breaking just a verification thing. The file is installscript.vdf

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:32 pm

Thanks, I see that file you are talking about.....unfortunately I don't see how that is gonna help me figure out how to make this game run properly. Something is obviously wrong with my install or the game in general and since I can't just reinstall the game and manually get the patch I have to rely on the cache verifer. The cache verifier won't get whatever file it keeps hanging up on, and won't check the rest of the files after, so, well, I guess that's that.

If it was just a matter of not being able to complete one of the earlier quests I mentioned then I guess it wouldn't be so bad. However, there seems to be some (for lack of a better term) corruption that takes place that just compounds to the point of making the game unplayable. I didn't wanna get to specific before since it is kinda game spoiling to me, but when you show up at Mr. house with the chip and there are no options to do anything with it it makes the game kinda pointless. Or if I go to do the yes man quests and everytime I go into the ultraluxe my game crashes it makes it kinda hard to finish that string. These problems always seem to start with something small like the meat quest I mentioned....sometimes as early as the tutorial. They then seem to just get worse and worse to where anytime you go through a random door you crash to desktop. Or you get to a npc and they don't have the dialog options needed to finish/continue a quest.

I understand Bethesda going to steam to combat pirates. I kinda even see who the way they and steam think this method of patching games is easier and will get people who know even less than myself about computers into thier game. At this point I am in a loop where I can't get the game to work though.

Oh well, thanks for trying to help. He he, guess I will go back outside and shovel more snow for entertainment.....at least till I have to get a patch for my shovel from steam

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:40 am

I've had this problem as well, it's damn annoying for sure. Except in my case I will get sound out of the left side or the right side, but never both at same time. I've updated every damn file I could think of reguarding drivers and such, So I followed Jasper's advise and here's what I got:

Starting validation of Fallout New Vegas
Validation failure: c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\fallout new vegas\InstallScript.vdf
Validation complete: 438 Total Files, 1 Failed Validation

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:27 pm

Ok, well I just did a complete uninstall and re-download and it's still !$!@$ed up. Is this site un-moderated? Like to know im not wasting my time looking for help here.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:26 am

Ok, well I just did a complete uninstall and re-download and it's still !$!@$ed up. Is this site un-moderated? Like to know im not wasting my time looking for help here.

From please read before posting thread:
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1120441-please-read-before-posting/

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:50 pm

Thanks, I see that file you are talking about.....unfortunately I don't see how that is gonna help me figure out how to make this game run properly. Something is obviously wrong with my install or the game in general and since I can't just reinstall the game and manually get the patch I have to rely on the cache verifer. The cache verifier won't get whatever file it keeps hanging up on, and won't check the rest of the files after, so, well, I guess that's that.

If it was just a matter of not being able to complete one of the earlier quests I mentioned then I guess it wouldn't be so bad. However, there seems to be some (for lack of a better term) corruption that takes place that just compounds to the point of making the game unplayable. I didn't wanna get to specific before since it is kinda game spoiling to me, but when you show up at Mr. house with the chip and there are no options to do anything with it it makes the game kinda pointless. Or if I go to do the yes man quests and everytime I go into the ultraluxe my game crashes it makes it kinda hard to finish that string. These problems always seem to start with something small like the meat quest I mentioned....sometimes as early as the tutorial. They then seem to just get worse and worse to where anytime you go through a random door you crash to desktop. Or you get to a npc and they don't have the dialog options needed to finish/continue a quest.

I understand Bethesda going to steam to combat pirates. I kinda even see who the way they and steam think this method of patching games is easier and will get people who know even less than myself about computers into thier game. At this point I am in a loop where I can't get the game to work though.

Oh well, thanks for trying to help. He he, guess I will go back outside and shovel more snow for entertainment.....at least till I have to get a patch for my shovel from steam

The file it keeps hanging up on wont ever verify correctly. Its not a problem as i said before its a common issue.
If thats the only file you find in gamevalidation.log then dont worry about it.

Doo you play any other steam games? Do you play any other games other than civ5?
A dxdiag could help. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1122570-how-to-dxdiag/

When you reinstall fallout are you making sure to delete the fallout directory? Including the save game directory? Excluding your actual save games.
Bear in mind this isnt official tech support. Refer to the link I posted earlier. You will find official tech support contact info.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:15 am

The file it keeps hanging up on wont ever verify correctly. Its not a problem as i said before its a common issue.
If thats the only file you find in gamevalidation.log then dont worry about it.

Doo you play any other steam games? Do you play any other games other than civ5?
A dxdiag could help. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1122570-how-to-dxdiag/

When you reinstall fallout are you making sure to delete the fallout directory? Including the save game directory? Excluding your actual save games.
Bear in mind this isnt official tech support. Refer to the link I posted earlier. You will find official tech support contact info.

Well, the file it hangs on is at 66% or so....it won't check past that so i have no idea if the rest is ok. I also play battlefield bad company2 and left for dead1/2....I don't have any problems with any of those games. When I have uninstalled I have done it from the control panel in windows7...I would assume that the folder is gone since it doesn't show up as a program to delete anymore....do i need to go through my computer afterwards and delete more? I have deleted my saved games a few times too, I didn't see a point in saving them if they were corupted and I play on hard, which isnt that hard anyways. I will try to run a dxdiag and post the results later if ya think that will help.

On a side note there were no patches for my snowshovel in steam which is a total bummer....I would really like them to make it work better......

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:52 pm

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Drive: D:
Model: ATAPI iHAS324 Y ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), , 0 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Intel® processor PCI Express Root Port 1 - D138
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D138&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_11\3&13C0B0C5&0&18
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3B3C
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B3C&SUBSYS_50061458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&D7
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 3B26
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B26&SUBSYS_B0021458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&FD
Driver: n/a

Name: NEC Electronics USB 3.0 Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1033&DEV_0194&SUBSYS_50071458&REV_03\4&304316D0&0&00E2
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® processor DMI - D131
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D131&SUBSYS_50001458&REV_11\3&13C0B0C5&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3B3B
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B3B&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&D0
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 3B20
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B20&SUBSYS_B0021458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&FA
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® processor Miscellaneous Registers - D158
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D158&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_11\3&13C0B0C5&0&43
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B56&SUBSYS_A0021458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&D8
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3B39
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B39&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&EB
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® P55 Express Chipset LPC Interface Controller - 3B02
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B02&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&F8
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® processor System Control and Status Registers - D157
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D157&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_11\3&13C0B0C5&0&42
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3 - 3B46
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B46&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&E2
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3B38
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B38&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&EA
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_50001458&REV_A6\3&13C0B0C5&0&F0
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® processor Semaphore and Scratchpad Registers - D156
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D156&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_11\3&13C0B0C5&0&41
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 - 3B44
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B44&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&E1
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3B37
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B37&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&E9
Driver: n/a

Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_B0001458&REV_02\4&39589462&0&00E0
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® processor System Management Registers - D155
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D155&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_11\3&13C0B0C5&0&40
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 3B42
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B42&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&E0
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3B36
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B36&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&E8
Driver: n/a

Name: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_E0001458&REV_06\4&43FAD29&0&00E1
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® QuickPath Interconnect - D151
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D151&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_11\3&13C0B0C5&0&81
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3B3F
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B3F&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&D2
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3B34
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B34&SUBSYS_50061458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&EF
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0BE5&SUBSYS_14723842&REV_A1\4&932E434&0&0118
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® QuickPath Interconnect - D150
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D150&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_11\3&13C0B0C5&0&80
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3B3E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B3E&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&D1
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller - 3B30
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B30&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_06\3&13C0B0C5&0&FB
Driver: n/a

Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_06CD&SUBSYS_14723842&REV_A3\4&932E434&0&0018
Driver: n/a

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DirectShow Filters
------------------

DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOD.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,mp3dmod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp4sdecd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsdecd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,wmvdecod.dll,6.01.7600.16597
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp43decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mpg4decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7600.16385
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,12.00.7600.16385
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
SBE2MediaTypeProfile,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7600.16724
Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7600.16724
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7600.16724
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7600.16385
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7600.16724
Closed Captions anolysis Filter,0x00200000,2,5,cca.dll,6.06.7600.16385
SBE2FileScan,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7600.16724
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7600.16385
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
MPEG-2 Video Stream anolyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7600.16724
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
VPS Decoder,0x00200000,0,0,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7600.16385
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7600.16385
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.01.7600.16385
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
iTV Data Sink,0x00600000,1,0,itvdata.dll,6.06.7600.16385
iTV Data Capture filter,0x00600000,1,1,itvdata.dll,6.06.7600.16385
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,qdvd.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7600.16385
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
RDP DShow Redirection Filter,0xffffffff,1,0,DShowRdpFilter.dll,
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WST Pager,0x00200000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7600.16385
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7600.16724
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.06.7600.16385
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,6.01.7600.16385
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7600.16724
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.06.7600.16385
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
StreamBufferSink2,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7600.16724
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.01.7600.16385
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7600.16385
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490

WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvxencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvencod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490

Audio Capture Sources:
Microphone (Realtek High Defini,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Realtek Digital Input (Realtek ,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385

PBDA CP Filters:
PBDA DTFilter,0x00600000,1,1,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7600.16724
PBDA ETFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7600.16724
PBDA PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7600.16724

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
Realtek HD Digital input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385
Realtek HD Audio CD input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385
Realtek HD Audio Line input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385
Realtek HD Audio Mic input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385
Realtek HD Audio Stereo input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385
Realtek HDA SPDIF Optical Out,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385
Realtek HDA SPDIF Out,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.7600.16648

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7600.16385

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7600.16385
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7600.16385

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,1,EncDec.dll,6.06.7600.16724
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7600.16724
PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7600.16724
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7600.16724

WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385

Audio Renderers:
Speakers (Realtek High Definiti,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
DirectSound: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
DirectSound: Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
DirectSound: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Realtek Digital Output (Realtek,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490
Realtek Digital Output(Optical),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16490

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EVR Power Information
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Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality)
Quality Flags: 2576
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow half deinterlace
Allow scaling
Decode Power Usage: 100
Balanced Flags: 1424
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow batching
Force half deinterlace
Force scaling
Decode Power Usage: 50
PowerFlags: 1424
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow batching
Force half deinterlace
Force scaling
Decode Power Usage: 0

here's that dxdiag....

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:37 am

From please read before posting thread:
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1120441-please-read-before-posting/

Ok then.. Where does steam install the game? Because I do not see a bethesda folder. I downloaded the game to my computer, I didn't use a CD.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:22 am

Ok then.. Where does steam install the game? Because I do not see a bethesda folder. I downloaded the game to my computer, I didn't use a CD.

The game is installed in a subdirectory in the steam folder itself. It will look something like this -> C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\falloutdirectory

What kind of sound setup do you have? It sounds like a sound channel isnt working (maybe a cable isnt connected right) or you have theres a weird sound setting somewhere (in the system or driver). For instance, there
can be strange audio issues when a game is set to stereo yet you have a 5.1 system.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:23 am

Well, the file it hangs on is at 66% or so....it won't check past that so i have no idea if the rest is ok. I also play battlefield bad company2 and left for dead1/2....I don't have any problems with any of those games. When I have uninstalled I have done it from the control panel in windows7...I would assume that the folder is gone since it doesn't show up as a program to delete anymore....do i need to go through my computer afterwards and delete more? I have deleted my saved games a few times too, I didn't see a point in saving them if they were corupted and I play on hard, which isnt that hard anyways. I will try to run a dxdiag and post the results later if ya think that will help.

On a side note there were no patches for my snowshovel in steam which is a total bummer....I would really like them to make it work better......

You should go directly to the steam directory to make sure the whole fall folder is deleted before you reinstall. ALso make sure to delete the fallout 3 new vegas folder in my games (the one that holds your saved games). The ad/remove method doesnt always delete everything it should. You should also make sure your drive is free of errors and defraged. right click on your C drive and go to properties->tools. Clcik the error checking button and clcik start. You may be prompted for a reboot. Do so and the error checking should
go on the windows boot. Also use the defragger from the tools tab also.