To be fair, what modders have done doesn't equal what beth can do. Beth has to worry about us mere console owners as well, while modders do not. So statements like this, and this:

always puzzle me.

That was a hyperbole.

Even so, no one even said anything remotely close to that in this thread. Its actually one of the most mellow and mature threads discussing dragonriding. Posts like yours tend to change that, no offense.

People dislike Hyperboles in conversations for a reason.

I think things are starting to mellow out now simply because we're all just accepting it the way it is and siliently hoping that they'll, perhaps, find a way to make it in some sort controllable manner.

Woah man chill out dude. We are just having conversation about it man. Like he said, this thread is actually pretty mellow. Lets not mess it up. No one said they felt cheated. Just a friendly discussion. Using the glitch is pretty enjoyable if you can get it to work in places. The views are awesome. And if dragon riding was done the way this glitch works, then Beth could absolutely do it no doubt.

I am chill and even if I made it sound like I was angry the words I highleted in BOLD: my point still stands.

This isnt an angry rant. I just feel like I have to defend my stance and the point of this thread. This was just a friendly discussion. Yes I did say I think it could be done. Because even though it was unintended, the video clearly shows that the game can run fine with that type of dragon riding. So surely Bethesda could model something after that and maybe even optimize it to be better. Are you telling me that after using the glitch and watching the video that it is not possible to be put into the game. I don't understand how people say it can't be done when clearly it can. Albeit through a glitch, but the game handles it just fine. no major loading issues or freezes. So yes, i do think it can be done. but i didnt base may opinion like a crybaby who calls bethesda lazy. i based it on hard evidence presented by the game. But I never said I felt cheated. If this is the only dragon riding we get, that's fine with me. I am a tad disappointed with the feature, but I'm still happy that some iteration of it is present. And this thread was just to discuss the glitch and how cool full dragon riding would be or how it could work. No one bashed Bethesda. No one called them lazy. You came in here and based on the title assumed we were just whining about a feature in the game.

Is there a difference between fast traveling to a spot with a dragon and using bend will at that spot?

I fast traveled to Lakeview Manor and the dragon just landed me at the front door. (after we had dealt with some bandits attacking my home.) I saw someone else comment that when they went to the CoW the dragon just landed them on the bridge.

So to get the "glitchy" behavior, do you have to pick up the dragon at the same spot where you are asking it to land?

Did you see how slow you flew? I can sneak faster speeds than that ( spam roll ftw ) and you couldnt control him. Sure bethesda 'could' implement EXTREMLY slow-mo free roam with low res textures left right and centre, but they dont want to because it looks ugly. to them Having 'something' thats fairly decent> not having anything at all > having something terrible which i guarantee people would be complaining about just as much if not more about.

To be honest, I didn't see Dragon riding going any other way than the on rails method that it is now.
An earlier poster in this thread nailed the reason without maybe actually realising it
They couldn't allow free roaming as you could land in the middle of a low res city with no proper cell loaded, the alternative being cities streaming in like the scenery and all but the higher spec PC crying while trying to do it.
This isn't an elitist thing, it is a hardware fact.
The only way to avoid this is to use the method Beth employed with it being on rails.

So whatever your opinions on the Beth team, they chose the option to try and keep quality over quantity this time.

They could probably add a lot more destinations in from what I have heard though (PC so I could't say till I get my hands on it), but they have to keep the flightpath far enough away from cities or have the dragons using very low approach when landing at cities.

I am not sure why they couldn't just not let you land in a city. I flew over "low-res Whiterun" and it was obviously not the same Whiterun you would get if you went in through the main gate. Ysolda's house wasn't even there. It was more of a Potempkin Village.

Personally, I am liking dragon riding a lot more than I thought I would. I am especially enjoying the dogfights with other dragons. These are some of the coolest fights I have had in a while.

I was moving at a horse's speed and things looked pretty high-res. It was much faster than in the video.

Truth is, I decided I like the slower speed the dragons sometimes move at. I went to one dragon lair and fought a dragon and after the battle was over my dragon started flying around in circles, but it was rather slow. I thought that was actually better than its normal flight speed because I actually had time to look around and see things rather than having them whipping by.

Also, I can't really see how speed is an issue here. They could travel no faster than I could walk and they would still be a faster mode of transport than any other means because they can simply fly over things. You could Trave from Riften to Dragon Tounge overlook in less than a minute on a dragon while it would take you five minutes sprinting on the ground.

You really need to fly one of these guys before you complain about slow speed. As it is, they seem to default to a speed that is faster than I would like.

Pfff skyrim horses are slow... ( translation = no rebuke so trying to change subject ) .

Yeah dude they don't fly quite as slow as you think. Also the landscape does look surprisingly good. This is also a glitch, that's why I said Bethesda could make something better. Even if dragons are slow, like cap and gown said, they can fly over stuff so really they would be the fastest means of travel. My biggest problem with the dragon riding is not being able to get from point A to point B without a loading screen. This glitch shows that something as simple as that is possible. As for your argument about being able to land in low res cities, no. I can already fly over low res cities and when I tell the dragon to land he doesn't land in the them. Why would that change with full dragon riding? You just tell your dragon to land and it finds a valid spot to land. So I don't understand that argument.

Happened again at Hlaalu Farm. Flew me to Shearpoint again.

I have a question: will they only do that if you board at Hlaalu, or if you arrive there by fast travel as well?

If its like the college of winterhold gltich then should work either way.

I fast traveled to Hlaalu farm on dragonback and when I told it to land it did the glitch. It also happened at the riften stables too.

Ok, I agree that dragon riding is a disappointment but still, it would take a LOT of coding for Beth to actually get dragon riding actually controllable. At best they would just add navigation markers like press RB to set a marker at the location you're looking at and the dragon will fly there and circle it. That is the best if not the most beth will do with making dragon riding controllable. It is depressing to see it like this but consoles aren't as good as PCs which is why a PC can do this and XBOX or PS3 can't.