Questions about SMART *with kickass pictures*

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:39 pm

Now I know this game isn't totally like Mirror's Edge (and it probably shouldn't be), but I have a few questions about the S.M.A.R.T. system and what is exactly possible to do with it.

A. If I press jump while running up a wall do I kick off the wall to the other side? This can be used to reach higher ledges. This move was used many times in Mirror's Edge (I'm gonna use most examples from that since it had pretty much everything).

Picture: http://www.upload.ee/image/757745/A.png

B. Is there wall running? Just running at the wall at a certain angle (mine isn't exactly right in the picture, but whatever) and holding jump (or SMART).

Picture: http://www.upload.ee/image/757746/B.png

C. Is it possible to crouch while jumping? Again, like Mirror's Edge: to jump over high obstacles you needed to crouch in air to pull your legs under your belly so you would not trip over things. The Brink devs talked how a skilled player could be even faster with just using the good old buttons instead of SMART. This seems like one of those examples to me. If there is a rail infront of you and you are running towards it and holding down SMART then you are going to vault over it. But that takes time. Skilled player could press jump and hold crouch to tuck his legs under his belly and just get over it much faster. See picture for better explanation.

Picture: http://www.upload.ee/image/757747/C.png

PS: I know that my drawings are just the best. :shifty: And just in case some don't understand -> /sarcasm
Also, excuse my bad grammar, English is not my mother tongue. :)
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Meghan Terry
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:03 pm

probably not...
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lacy lake
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:14 pm

kickass pics dude, and thanks. most people on here know this already, but maybe we could put this in the FAQ thread
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Laura Tempel
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:22 pm

A there's walljumping, no wallrunning
B there's walljumping, no wallrunning
C you will put one hand on the object and throw yourself over it, with your legs pulled up. smart will do that for you so you can concentrate on firing while doing so
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:44 am

A there's walljumping, no wallrunning
B there's walljumping, no wallrunning
C you will put one hand on the object and throw yourself over it, with your legs pulled up. smart will do that for you so you can concentrate on firing while doing so

A&B - How is there wall jumping without wall running? Either there's neither but there's wall bouncing, or there's both, wall jumping isn't possible without wall running...
C - Putting one hand on the object and throwing yourself over is called vaulting, what this guy's suggesting is a harder but faster but harder way of doing the same thing, which I think would be a good way to add skill to the game without detracting from the team gameplay.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:05 am

I'm pretty sure there is wallrunning. Go to www.brinkthegame.com and view the first video, titled the Dawn of S.M.A.R.T.

At 0:47 there is wallrunning, and I know i've seen in one gameplay video the player wallrun then jump to cross a gap.
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Dan Scott
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:33 pm

A&B - How is there wall jumping without wall running? Either there's neither but there's wall bouncing, or there's both, wall jumping isn't possible without wall running...
C - Putting one hand on the object and throwing yourself over is called vaulting, what this guy's suggesting is a harder but faster but harder way of doing the same thing, which I think would be a good way to add skill to the game without detracting from the team gameplay.

in real life i can wall jump but not wall run. when u wall run yoo have to have enough momentum and friction to keep youself from falling off side ways. wal jumping is kicking up of a wall.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:17 pm

in real life i can wall jump but not wall run. when u wall run yoo have to have enough momentum and friction to keep youself from falling off side ways. wal jumping is kicking up of a wall.

Actually I do Parkour too, wall jumping is jumping out of a wall run and is much harder, what you described is wall bouncing, as I said before, sorry it just annoys me when people that know nothing use the wrong terms, that guy didn't even know what vaulting was.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:42 am

that guy didn't even know what vaulting was.

:facepalm:
And to adress the running and crouching method, yes if the object is low enough, Brink has made official statements saying that players who use manual methods to move around and do smart movement will be rewarded with doing the action faster. Doing what was mentioned in the OP will only give you the accuracy for jumping not vaulting and will also sustain more of your momentum aaaaaand you will get over the obstacle faster.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:58 pm

Actually I do Parkour too, wall jumping is jumping out of a wall run and is much harder, what you described is wall bouncing, as I said before, sorry it just annoys me when people that know nothing use the wrong terms, that guy didn't even know what vaulting was.

lol srry wal bouncing then.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:34 pm

Lol, a lot of confusion. I'm gonna apologize also for not knowing the right terms.

A. So it is called wall bouncing? What I meant is that you can do this when running up a wall (straight towards a wall). There was some confusion as "how can you wall bounce and not wall run". I did not think of this as running along the wall (wall running).

B. Cangi is right. In the Dawn of S.M.A.R.T. there is wall running. One example would be the part in the "simple environment".

C. Sorry if I got the vaulting term wrong. What I mean is that with S.M.A.R.T you will just climb over it (like most video games nowadays). Or if it is some sort of a rail you can also slide under it. But this reduces your movement speed for a sec. The jump & crouch would not.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:57 pm

Hmmm... personally they should create a real life SMART program which you can chip into your head so you can do super cool things like that when just randomly running with no need to learn the skill in the first place :P
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:46 pm

Hmmm... personally they should create a real life SMART program which you can chip into your head so you can do super cool things like that when just randomly running with no need to learn the skill in the first place :P


What like the bleed effect from Assassin's Creed?

So playing a video game is supposed to make you better at parkour?
Yea that would be awesome.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:38 am

What like the bleed effect from Assassin's Creed?

So playing a video game is supposed to make you better at parkour?
Yea that would be awesome.


Yea Exactly :P lol

If only things were that easy. Now I have to go out and train my ass off if i want to do parkour. Cause it's really physically demanding xD
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:58 am

This just in from the SD forums.

A ) Yep. Totally doable. But requires some skill - it's not an "out of the box" move. You have to practice it to get it right.

B ) Instead of wall running, we do wall hops (as seen in the Freedom of Movement video on the Brink website). Any free runner/traceur will tell you that only the first steps in a wall run are actually useful .The rest are just for show (unless you're running around a concave surface). Wall hops basically feel like a double jump, but you have to be next to a wall to use them.

C ) No air crouching, but the vaulting and mantling take care of most of the cases you'd need air crouching. Plus, the lower the ledge is relative to your body, the faster it will be, so in effect, you get the same speed benefit in pre-jumping a vault. i.e. in the examples you give, you'd always do a vault, but when you do anything to hit the vault higher, you'll decrease the duration of the vault move.

Hopefully, we've got you covered!

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:24 pm

I'm just gonna make small bump here so people who wanted to know the anwsers can see it.
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jenny goodwin
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:26 pm

Great questions there, glad you got answers. Thanks all, I wanted to know as well.
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