Since more and more game companies have been releasing games on Steam I have nearly bought all my PC games exclusively through them... No Discs, No "wizards", NO Worries! . As some of you may or may not know a little game called Fallout: New Vegas is coming out soon and the Collectors edition is calling my name. I think I know the answer to this question but if I buy the Collectors edition at GameStop or where ever, Do I need to insert the DVD every time I want to play? I would (think) hope that possibly the CD-Key (if there is one) would verify with Steam that the copy that I purchased is legal and allows Steam takeover the DRM thus allowing me to do with it as my other Steam purchased games.

Also was there any word on adding Window Live to the game?

The retail copy of the game is using Steamworks as DRM, this has been confirmed for months. You activate the game with Steam, and it gets locked to your account, and it becomes like any other Steam game, ie, no disc required.

Once installed onto and registered with Steam you won't need the disc, it'll work just like any game bought off Steam.


And since Steam has it's own achievements system being implemented into New Vegas, then adding GFWL would just be pointless, as such it's not being added.

FNV doesn't use GFWL, it uses Steamworks, whether using the retail or STEAM version :mellow:

Oh another steam advertising thread... long time no see...

If anything is stopping me buying NV then it is this horrible steam marketing that's going on here.

your going to have to deal with it.

I'm going to tolerate steam, just because of the achievements.

No I don't have to deal with constant steam advertisemant threads!

I can simply leave the gamesas NV forum so that the people from the advertisemant agency can talk with them self. It's simply boring to hear constantly 'How wonderful steam is...' in every thread on this forum.

Don't get me wrong I don't talk about Bethsedas decision to use steam and my opinion about these software. I talk about in some way paid (free games, agency, ...) postings that spam this forum everyday in the meantime. They have only one reason to get positive publicity for steam and not more.

no one here is being paid to advertise steam.
so get off the conspiracy theories, and deal with it.

You love your 'deal with it' correct? The wonderful thing is that I also don't have to read your really 'nice' statements. Deal with it .

I have enough experience in this business to see what's going on.

Have fun with all the marketing praise and speech I am leaving this section of the forum now.

I share your pain as well, everytime you have to play the game another process runs and it slows your game down. Luckily I'm gonna buy it for the ps3 as well.

Yea sorry if my question was noobish. But I remember it bought a game on disc and it went through steam but I asked for the disc every time. I don't remember what game I just hated that. So yea I guess I'm all in for the collectors. And sorry for all the steam love. It's a nice change from dealing with scratched discs and losing your cd keys.

Steam is currently the best platform for digital distribution with its unlimited free downloads to any PC you log your account into, disc free gaming, achievement/stat tracking and automatic patch updating I really have no clue how someone can hate on something that is so much better then everything else available and is free to use.

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I respect you for your mods, but you're really being a jerk here. Nobody on these boards is paid to advocate steam - most of us who do advocate steam do so because we enjoy the service and the convenience it provides us.

I can't even use STEAM since I'm a console user, but I'm not exactly in support of the concept. I'm still kind of anchored to the whole physical copy thing. It just makes it feel more secure, plus you don't need nearly as much memory to run it.

STEAM doesn't use that much RAM, and you don't need STEAM if you're buying the console version. Either you'll use Xbox Live or Playstation Network (or whatever it's called), for achievements/trophies.

While 30mb of RAM might be a lot when you only have 512mb to play around with, most PCs these days have upwards of 2gb. Steam's footprint is a drop in the ocean, and if you have more than 2gb of RAM it makes no difference at all, as you couldn't use the whole 2gb on one application anyway.

If Steam saps enough memory to slow your games down the PC you're trying to play them on isn't fit to play games in the first place.


I have a rig I built for ~150-200 dollars. I managed to scrounge up a Socket 939 dual core, 4 gigs of brand new DDR400(Probably 70-75% of what I paid for it ), an 8800GS, a full ATX SLI-capable motherboard to run it all in and a terabyte or so of harddrive space. I run a garbage picked CRT that can do 2048x1536, the rest of input/output devices cost no more than 30 bucks(360 pad was 20 off eBay, mouse 15 from Walmart, keyboard 25 from Walmart, speakers 30 from Walmart). I spent less building my rig than I would have on either console, yet it's capable of running today's games just fine. Crysis, GTA IV, BC2, Fallout, they all run wonderfully.


My rig doesn't even feel Steam when I'm in-game. Hell most of the time I can even leave Firefox running, even though it loves to gobble up 200-300MB of ram for no reason. If your rig is in any way fit to run New Vegas it won't even notice the miniscule amount of RAM Steam uses.



Then buy your Steam games on Retail DVD. You still get the DVD you seem to tie to actually owning the game. You don't have to buy Steam games from the Steam store to use Steam for your games. You can buy every Valve game ever made on an actual DVD, as well as most third party Steam games. New Vegas is one such game.

Best part is that if something happens to the disc you don't have to torrent an ISO or buy a new copy. You don't really need the disc for anything. It speeds up initial install a bit, and it makes a fancy coaster.



Here Here!

Although I like steam I can't actually play, well, any games on it because my computer is extremely out of date. It still has floppy drive on it :brokencomputer: . Only reason I have steam is for the deals they do so when I upgrade I can play them.

Well if you can't play any games on your PC why are you even bothering with FNV?

Im not getting it on PC, yet. Im getting it for the 360. Then i'll buy it later on the PC when I upgrade.