Not starting an argument here but a lot of games from the 80s will NOT run in XP;something like DosBox will sort it, though.

Reason i mentioned that you can run earlier version of windows and dos within windows 7 pro x64 virtual pc just fine...

and yeah dosbox does the trick for a number of them too

Windows - as far as as games are concerned - did not exist in the 80s!

(yes, I'm "old")

windows made itself known in actually 1981...

for playing games? no not really.... mostly all dos yet.. you'd have to exit windows to run the games..

however i was talking about some games in the range of windows 3.1/3.11 up to windows 95/98/ME.

I resisted Windows until it was practically required.

Hey guys...

I just installed the free Hi-Rez pack but it seems to me the graphics are exactly the same as before. However the Hi-Rez pack demands much more memory.

Is this just me or???

Computer specs
Win 2008 R2 x64
i7x980@4GHz
8G DDR3@2000
GTX 580 with the latest driver.

Thank you.

Are you sure you have the DLC files active? They don't make a BIG difference, but it is very noticable. More noticable to me since it since my PC to CtD every 30 seconds.

What many fail to realise is that the high res texture pack does not change the textures into something new, they just make them sharper, and is only noticable if you're looking at textures close up.

As for the crashing, I suggest that you back up your saves and reinstall the game along with the texture pack. Keep nothing but your saves, and let the .ini files etc regenerate.

Yeah pretty sure otherwise the system memory use won't be that high (I do notice that GPU memory use is only slightly higher).


Probably it was because I've set everything up to the highest possible values before the DLC that my screen and eyes can't really tell a difference w/ the DLC being active....>Q<

But to those whose computer cannot handle this Hi-Rez DLC, and those who cannot really tell a difference like myself, I'd say it should be safe if you skip this offer....LOL

I can confirm 64 bit is one of solutions . I have just reinstall my win with 64 version and everything ok now althought I had spent more money with this win ! So if you have this problem just reinstall your windows so you cound run smoothly.

omg.. i hope you didn't buy a NEW copy of windows if you already had the same version of windows only 32bit prior.

the 32bit key works in 64bit.... no need to purchase a new one.

Correct -- the new textures merely increase the resolution of the textures so that there is less stretching\pixelation when viewed but for many of them the 16x increase in memory usage is not worth the small improvement in visuals ( Most of the textures increase by 2 factors of 2 (ie. 512x512 increases to 2048x2048) which increases the file size and VRAM usage by 16x (since 16 512x512 pixel images can fit in one 2048x2048 image space)

If the resolution of textures are increased by just this amount, haven't really dig into it, then as far as I know, human perception is a log_e function.................

I have mirrored 32 and 64-bit Skyrim installations. Right now the 64-bit version seems to be running fine, but the 32-bit crashes hard after a few seconds. I'm not making any dangerous generaizations here but just offering a comment on my experiences. It's worth pointing out I've been finding that things run a bit better with 3rd-party mods disabled in 32-bit.

Having the same crash to desktop issues along with some textures not loading
First time it was the roots on the ground between the three sign stones, the inside of the boat you can see below and.. alduin.. it was quite funny to see a purple dragon fly over you.
Second time it was the lower half of the warrior stone, the hanging moss on the stealth related stone and the same boat as before.
I have windows vista 32 bit too.

I'm quite surprised at how casually some people are sugesting the upgrade to the 64 bit version.
What bothers me in this situation is not that it can't run with the 32 bit version but rather that there was no mention of that on the DLC page.

So if it turns out that it really is a problem inherent to 32 bit OS it would be nice to have that mention on the DLC page.
Really don't understand how DLC isn't optional in steam. Doesn't seem that hard to add the option to enable/disable certain DLCs. Hopefully the option is there and I just can't seem to find it

If I disable the data files and delete them steam won't download them again unless I verify integrity of game cache right?
At least it didn't automatically download the skyrim exe again when it vanished after one of the patches so I'm assuming I can "disable them" this way

That's a really odd comment. Every single old game runs just fine with win7 64bit. It has the best compatibility mode of any version of windows.

When I was a kid playing games on my DOS machines I had to disable windows 3.11 because it hogged all the memory! Yeah I'm 'old' too.

If you tried 'every single old game' on a Win64 machine you'd find, like I have (but with only a finite number of 'old games' that I actually own, as opposed to 'every single old game' there is) that some games don't run at all while others run but behave badly. Not making this up. It is what I experienced.

I've replaced my 32-bit install of Win7 with a 64-bit installation. I no longer CTD when playing Skyrim with BOTH hi-rez texture packs installed. My system has 4gb or ram. When I had 32-bit win7 installed, my system only used 3 out of 4gb of that ram. With win 7 64-bit installed, my system now uses all 4gb of ram. It appears that last 1gb of ram is crucial for the hi-rez texture packs to function without running out of RAM. My video card is a NVIDA GeForce GTX 580 with 1.5GB ram.

You've never really installed a game until you've had to create your own batch file to boot the pc and load all dos drivers, soundcard, mouse, etc. into the high memory area because some game requires like 600k out of your 640k of Conventional memory... Yeah, I'm looking at you, Arena.

*Cough* Oh, yeah, got sidetracked. So, anyone using these textures, are these HD Textures worth all the trouble? I'm in the process of downloading them from Steam, but my game is running pretty well right now and though I have Win7 64 bit, I often go by "If it aint broke..."

They do look pretty nice from what I've seen (pics) but are alot of people having issues with them, and if so is it really worth the risk...? (I mean, it should be easy to uninstall them if they crap out your game performance/stability, right?)

If you have problems after you've downloaded the DLC you can easily disable it by unchecking the the texture packs ESMs using the Data Files option from Skyrim's splash screen.

This is really encouraging. I have Vista 32-bit, but it came pre-installed on my PC so I am not sure there is a way to change it to 64-bit without any CD's.

leburns... sorry there isn't... you could go and download the OEM 64bit version... it's not illegal to do so as your 32bit key is a legal transferable key to 64bit.. it'll work exactly the same way

but of course requires that you completely reinstall windows and programs....

I am running XP32 bit, got CTD's after install hi rez texturepacks, added /3GB to startup options windows, no CTD's since that time.
See here for details : http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg487508

Well, I installed the HD Hi-Rez pack and it is working fine so far (on a Win7 64-bit machine). It's 2 esp files that check automatically (and go to the right directory) if you DL through Steam (free) and I guess uninstalling them should be as easy as unclicking them through Data Files options. I guess the upside of this is if you DL mods from Steam, they can be put in place automatically for users that have no computer skills.

So far, they look nice, on some things it's obvious, like shields and Elven armor, etc. if looks alot crisper and/or more detailed, but on some things are hard to tell a difference unless you were really looking.

The only downside is I've noticed logs in my fire pit at Breezehome that look like they are "Glowing Yellow" like white phosphorus or plutonium. It's not a game breaking problem, but it is a little distracting for me, because I've seen alot of bonfires and fireplaces burning, and have never seen logs look like that. I guess I'll deal with it for now.