I am really looking forward to play Dawngaurd but I was under the impression that Skyrim will feature less but larger addons like the Shiverling Isles. SI costs 2400 Microsoft Points while DG will cost 1600 so I would guess that SI will have more content that Dawngaurd so I assumed that it will be as large as Fallout 3/NV addons.

Nevertheless, when I checked the prices for fallout addons, they all cost 800 points.

So do you guys think we can make a prediction on how big Dawngaurd will be relative to Oblivion's and Fallout's DLCs based on their price? Did Gameinformer mention anything about it's size and content?

I would say it will be larger than fallout's DLC's but smaller than the SI.

(When I mention size, I am talking about the amount of gameplay hours, new items and content.)

I don't necessarily think so. They may be trying a new strategy. By making it cheaper on release they might sell a lot more.

It's been said, and unfortunately it seems its going have to be said another time.

Todd had announced before the game even came out that all the DLC would be smaller than SI but bigger then Fallout's DLC's. Now thats been sorted i see no need whatsoever for these types of threads...

Dawnguard isn't having a retail disc option for either PC, Xbox360 or PS3. This cuts back on the cost considerably, particularly to the publisher (Who form the bulk of the markup for profit).

While I'm not saying this guarantees Dawnguard will have the same content level of Shivering isles, price alone cannot be used to make this call. The market has changed so much since Shivering Isles. I think we're definitely looking at something larger than Point Lookout or Broken Steel though.



These were their pre-release plans. When Skyrim shipped 7million units in the first 2 days of release, I think they'd be stupid not to at least reinvestigate the possibility of scaling their post-release support up quite a bit, including DLC.

We've actually already seen it in the form of patches with not just bug fixes, but new features as well.

How are you honestly comparing costs of 2 different DLCs between two different games?

I think dawnguard is going to have alot of content. But dont know if its going to have as much as shivering isles,Dont think so,But we at least get those new features wich i have been asking for!!<3 I think we can expect one really big expansion in the future. maybe bigger then shivering isles.who knows

Your using the wrong DLC, DG is closer to NotN [uses the same world space], which was 800 points. It seems that the extra gameplay features that come with "Knights of the Nine Vampires" roughly account for the cost.

How do you know it actually uses the same World Space? They would have to at least expand the borders a fairly significant amount to account for all the new landmarks shown in the trailer. As I've said before, I've explored every naturally explorable inch of Skyrim, and the vast majority of external shots in the trailer have fairly memorable landmarks I don't recall.

I think bethesdas selling point will be that its about the size of shivering Isles as far as content.

Dawnguard seems to take place in skyrim,Yes. But also in another realm. And it has more content then knights of the nine.

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...and yet I would like to take this opportunity to express my feelings on the excessive price tag, one which just might tip me over into not buying it.

I waited to get on the oblivion train and bought the GOTY edition for xbox with 2 discs, 1 was the game and the other had shivering isles and knights of the nine...all for $30


I'm glad they're keeping dawnguard at $20 (1600ms points) because if it was any more then i probably wouldn't buy it on principle, even though I'm xbox and welcome anything new to my fav gam skyrim

Because it uses the Skyrim map in the trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZqXKZOS2jQ


The fortress mentioned appears to be in the Sea of Ghosts.

At 0:28, the interior is Nordic.

The Dawnguard's HQ will be added to the current land, like Ayleid ruins were for NotN. I'm jusy calling it. It will be in Riften's Hold.

At 1:07 the Skyrim map is used.

At 1:10-1:11, Dragonsreach.

Well, that's not exactly confirmation. I don't doubt the theory, and I actually like the idea of keeping it in the same worldspace, but this still doesn't account for the fact that there's a pretty large amount of new land that's likely going to be needed to accommodate all the new landmarks and crap.

Shivering Isles was an entire new realm full of side quests and main quests. As far as i know this is just a quest about vampires and werewolves/hunters.

The Dawnguard fortress seems to be in the Rift. Behind the closed gate in Riften there's a stone path leading to Morrowind or, to be more precise, to the Jerral mountains. It could be right behind that gate or in the valley between Forelhost and Stendarr's beacon where there's enough space for a medium sized construction.

The vampires' fortress could be in a new island spawned off the coast north, in the sea of Ghosts. I wonder if it will be visible from certain other places like the lighthouse or the top of the College

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The key expression being "as far as weknow". Let's hope it's more than that. For 20 bucks, I am expecting more.

I thought we were traveling to high rock or battlespire or something for the dlc. Or soulcairn I think its called. But this sounds waaay better. Think about it, wandering on the road and then your ambushed by dawnguard scouts. OMG!!! That sounds like so much fun!! And I can't wait to see what the forts that control their territory will feel like.

This could be he equivelent of knights of the nine or the tribunal. Not bloodmoon/shivering isles

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Just out of curiosity, how big was Knights of the Nine, in terms of landmass, number of hours, quests, ? How was it priced, compared to Oblivion? Because Dawnguard will cost roughly a third of Skyrim's price tag. Since the engine development costs have already been covered, one should be expecting more than one third of the assets Skyrim provided, that is, more than 80 hours of gameplay.

I'm sure that with this DLC out it'll give us all enough time to enjoy Skyrim until the next even bigger DLC is released. I'm excited and buying it no matter what, like honestly if they put out horse armor for 800 msp I'd consider it