six Mod Question

Post » Wed May 16, 2012 6:35 am

So, I'm kind of curious. With six mods, are the animations hand crafted or motion captured? :P

On a more serious note, why shouldn't this be part of the game if it fits the storyline. I mean, the Witcher 2 did it quite well, so why not Skyrim?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 11:48 pm

To appeal to a wider audience. Not everyone wants to play a game with graphic six in it, so those that want it can mod it in. :shrug:
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:56 am

So, I'm kind of curious. With six mods, are the animations hand crafted or motion captured? :P

On a more serious note, why shouldn't this be part of the game if it fits the storyline. I mean, the Witcher 2 did it quite well, so why not Skyrim?

The Witcher 2 was 100% linear. I don't want the trade off.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 7:53 am

The Elder Scrolls have foretold that for console sales to be bold.
Anything sixual must be on hold.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 11:32 pm

although I liked the witcher 2, the six scenes were kinda awkward and I liked the six cards a lot more from the witcher 1 so.... I'll stick to porm if I wanna watch six
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:20 pm

The Elder Scrolls have foretold that for console sales to be bold.
Anything sixual must be on hold.
I love this.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 4:11 am

I love this.
I thought of a bit more. :P
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:02 pm


On a more serious note, why shouldn't this be part of the game if it fits the storyline. I mean, the Witcher 2 did it quite well, so why not Skyrim?
A short version of a rather complicated answer is this: The game is ESRB M rated (PEGI 18+), however, they fully expect children ages 11-17 to be playing this game because their parents either don't care or don't have a clue what the game is. Additionally, the forums are for ages 13+ which is why they do not want sixual content mods being released here.

And now for my own opinion... TW2 is a crap game that treats women and portrays them as toys and/or six slaves. The game was developed in poor taste with only teen and young advlt males in mind. Yes, I am a woman, and yes I find the game extremely offensive. I don't want to see that kind of garbage in my favorite games. /opinion
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:25 am

It would get an Ao rating in the US, which isn't illegal, but all the major retailers have policies against carrying selling them for some reason.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 6:38 am

And now for my own opinion... TW2 is a crap game that treats women and portrays them as toys and/or six slaves. The game was developed in poor taste with only teen and young advlt males in mind. Yes, I am a woman, and yes I find the game extremely offensive. I don't want to see that kind of garbage in my favorite games. /opinion

I think it's a little unfair to call TW2 a crap game. Sure it wasn't a sandbox fantasy game like Skyrim, but despite that and other flaws it is still one of the best role playing games to come along in a long time.

Personally I'm of the opinion that relationships and six are a part of life so therefore should be part of games. Could this be done more tastefully and less offensively than TW2. Absolutely. For the record, I'm not talking about hardcoe six mods here, more in the realm of relationship sims.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:45 am

The Elder Scrolls have foretold that for console sales to be bold.
Anything sixual must be on hold.


I lol'd my [censored] off. Thank you, sir, for this pearl. :foodndrink:
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:42 pm

So, I'm kind of curious. With six mods, are the animations hand crafted or motion captured? :P
Neither. All you need is a skeleton and some animation know-how to make custom animations like what you're describing.

On a more serious note, why shouldn't this be part of the game if it fits the storyline. I mean, the Witcher 2 did it quite well, so why not Skyrim?
Oh, they'll be released soon after the CK is. The reason there aren't any is because there's no way to implement them while letting the player control the action. Morrowind had six mods, Oblivion had six mods, both Fallout games from Bethesda had six mods, so it's only a matter of time before one (or more) is released for Skyrim.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:02 pm

Keep it clean and mature folks. And maybe stay off the Witcher 2 soapboxes, please. I am sure they have threads over on the CDProjeckt Red forums for you to vent.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:36 pm

Keep it clean and mature folks. And maybe stay off the Witcher 2 soapboxes, please. I am sure they have threads over on the CDProjeckt Red forums for you to vent.
If anybody is interested in making a mod such as this and wants a place to discuss it, Wolflore will gladly welcome you. That or the Nexus forums might welcome you as well. Note that directly linking to said mod is forbidden here per site rules. :whistling:

Much? I think I need to lay off of the whiskey, or lay on it more often.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:19 pm

Simply put six in video games adds nothing to it. Romance can add depth to a character's development like in dragon age or mass effect and yeah they have six scenes in them but they aren't graphic as they don't need to be to simply get the message across. six in the Witcher was nothing more than a card collecting game which didn't bring any extra depth to its story or to the main character. Honestly how is a game like Skyrim going to be in any way improved upon by adding naked people grinding up against each other? If that's what you want there's a whole internet full of people doing that and a real world where you can do it to. So the reason it's not in Skyrim aside from keeping the age rating down, there simply isn't any point.

And don't even get me started on all the sixy armour and clothing mods that will likely come out in the coming years. Aside from all the usual complaints I can offer about mods of this kind I'd like to pre emptivly point out that in Skyrim it's really really cold so wearing next to nothing is not going to benefit anyone.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:35 am

You can have six in Skyrim. Get married, go to sleep in the same bed as your spouse. You'll wake up with a buff called "Lover's Comfort". I'm sure you can figure out what that means.

And no, I don't think the six needs to be any more explicit than that. Skyrim is an epic fantasy adventure, not a trashy romance thriller. Graphic depictions of six would not add anything to the game and would only decrease game sales by forcing a rating bump.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 4:49 am

You can have six in Skyrim. Get married, go to sleep in the same bed as your spouse. You'll wake up with a buff called "Lover's Comfort". I'm sure you can figure out what that means.

And no, I don't think the six needs to be any more explicit than that. Skyrim is an epic fantasy adventure, not a trashy romance thriller. Graphic depictions of six would not add anything to the game and would only decrease game sales by forcing a rating bump.
I agree... I'm not talking about a hardcoe six mod here. More something alone the lines of a relationship simulator. As irl, half the fun is in the chase... it would be fun to make that part of Skyrim more fleshed out (no pun intended! :P).
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:23 pm

In every Bethesda game I have played, the issue of six was not avoided, as long as it adds to the story. However, they always stopped short of being graphic, as, well, you don't really need to be graphic about it. One can get the point across subtly.

We do allow discussion of advlt mods, as long as the thread stays within the rules as stated in the pinned thread above. I suggest those who are not familiar with those read the pinned thread.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:28 pm

I agree... I'm not talking about a hardcoe six mod here. More something alone the lines of a relationship simulator. As irl, half the fun is in the chase... it would be fun to make that part of Skyrim more fleshed out (no pun intended! :P).
That I can agree with. Personality-wise most of the potential spouses are practically interchangeable. It'd be nice if they each had they own little behavioral quirks and hobbies you had to compromise with to keep them happy, and you could actually have conversations with them and learn about their pasts and interests and dreams and stuff.

Your spouse needs to be less obedient too. It's kinda creepy how they do anything you tell them and make no demands of you, regardless of how powerful and independent they were before you married. Real stepford smiler stuff there.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 11:47 pm

Actually, I remember a few videos over on the escapist talking about how what we really need in games is not more graphic six (and more specifically, that we actually need less sixualization) but that what we are really lacking in games is the concept of intimacy.

Here's the Extra Credits one - http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/six-in-games

There was also a written article by Yahtzee that I don't feel like hunting down right now where he was talking about how games keep treating relationships (especially girlfriends) as either a trophy to be won, or else as a plot device whose death is the excuse for a male character to go on a rampage.

I'm actually rather heavily annoyed that anytime I talk about the deficiencies of the marriage system as it currently exists, I keep getting people popping up in the thread talking about how it's fine that their wife doesn't ever talk to them or react to them meaningfully because she will give them money and pies every day. Because that's the extent of relationships in games to these people... how much material you can exploit out of them. *siiiiiiiiiiiiigh*

When the creation kit comes out, one of my first mods will definitely be to create a marriage candidate with a detailed set of interactions you can perform. Then I'll possibly do some adoptable children, as well. In my mods, relationships will cost money in all likelyhood, but reward the player with longer-term benefits.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:09 am

I believe http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/9087-Extra-Punctuation-Why-No-Couples-in-Games is the Yahtzee article you were referring too.
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A short version of a rather complicated answer is this: The game is ESRB M rated (PEGI 18+), however, they fully expect children ages 11-17 to be playing this game because their parents either don't care or don't have a clue what the game is. Additionally, the forums are for ages 13+ which is why they do not want sixual content mods being released here.

And now for my own opinion... TW2 is a crap game that treats women and portrays them as toys and/or six slaves. The game was developed in poor taste with only teen and young advlt males in mind. Yes, I am a woman, and yes I find the game extremely offensive. I don't want to see that kind of garbage in my favorite games. /opinion

Maybe narratives have to explain everything to kneejerk folks like this, but the whole parallel of the sorceress coven and the like was basically women's lib in a world much less civilized than ours. The sorceresses are the only ones in the TW2 world that understand things with science not superstition and they protect eachother from a world full of dirt eating pig farmer chauvinists. Show me anything dark but true to life like that in any gamesas or Bioware title. You can't. They're too busy with blue alien lisbians-that-are-really-hermaphroditic and with retconning the Blades.

TW2's very, very advlt. Everything is bad for everyone. Women are tortured with hot irons, blinded by gouging, assaulted and killed. SO ARE MEN. CDprojekt didn't flinch from showing that women are just as afffected by the moral corruption of that world as the men are. They didn't flinch from showing that girls like boys and occasionally like other girls, too. There's no equality, no social contract, no shared moral compass. The only thing that brings humans together is their racism against elves and dwarves.

You're comfortable with running people through with longswords as they beg for mercy but you're not comfortable with Triss Merigold having a comedic romance scene in a grotto with the man she's loved for years?
Your indignation is misplaced, miss. Skyrim has a long way to go before it approaches characters with real dimensionality like TW2.

So I have to reject your assertion that TW2 was aimed at teenagers. Skyrim is aimed at teens and people who can't handle a world where even the pretty princesses are real people too. Real people who might make bad choices and get their eyes removed by torturors only to be treated with scorn and cruelty even by the player hero. You should consider that when you're committing wholesale murder in bandit_cave_235 because some random facegenerated npc with the same voice as Farkas and every other growly beard walking around promised you a steel mace and you might find 60gold on a conspicuous table somewhere in a tunnel along the way. Bonus. Go nonlinearity, you can go any direction to find almost the exact same thing at a lower quality than if there had been one or two of those things that had all the love instead.

Which brings me to the thread topic. six mods for the TES games have always been immature affairs, mainly there to be "Poser3D pormography". Fallout 3 was terrible about this in particular. Nothing clever about any of the girl-flesh mods for any Bethesda title ever, and may never be. Even the underwear groping in Dragon Age 1 and 2 is more "Worthy" in terms of a story event than looping some erotic animations with a prosttute in Megaton.


If a six-including mod for Skyrim came about (People want to have simulated intimacy with stiff robots Well Farkas is kind of sixy...) then ideally it would have narrative justification. That won't happen and we all know it, though. It will be "prosttutes in bars" and it will be #3 download on skyrim nexus right behind more revealing armor for women and nvde skins for women. Just like Fallout.

Again, which games are played by horny teens and advlt children?
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:19 pm

Didn't read Leydenne's post, I take it?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 11:28 pm

It's the differrence between the relationship in The Princess Bride versus Debbie Does Dallas.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:50 am

Just make a Skyrim character that looks like a pormstar then load up porm for that pormstar on your second monitor, alt-tab when you want six scene.
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