which lore do you guys think is better. obviously LOTR becuse they actually have written books of the series. now a TES book series would be nice.

I like both, but I'm leaning towards the Elder Scrolls, Mysterious Akavir is what I yearn for.

I prefer the lore of ES. I love LOTR as well but ES is just something really special to me.

They've written two books off TES, fyi.

And number of printed material doesn't mean that it's good. It just means that it's prolific.

TES has a written book. Look up the Infernal City, it also has hundreds of in-game books, try checking out this website for more info http://www.imperial-library.info/

if these books were as good as LOTR then they would have made TES movies so im still leaning towards LOTR but I must say Skyrim is my favorite game of all time.

if you couldn't tell from my avatar, i'm a huge nerd for LOTR, so yeah.. .LOTR haha

I grew up as a gamer and lover of fantasy.

Though I started out as a console kid (Atari, Nintendo) thanks to my older brother, I bought my first gaming computer specifically to play ES: Arena and Warcraft.

While I love the Lord Of The Rings and The Hobbit in particular is a book that will always remain as one of my favourites there is just something about ES lore that really holds me on a much deeper level.

Not necessarily, plenty of amazing underrated books out there. Not saying LOTR is overrated or anything or that the ES books are underrated as I haven't actually read them.

When ''The Hobbit'' comes out LOTR will gain followers so TES will always be behind. their only hope is TESO.

So yhe Wheel of Time isn't a good book series?

TES has a far more in depth lore due to over ten years of writing by a team (not one guy) and it is easier to read as it isn't in poems/historical fable style. Has anyone managed to read the Lays of Beleriand in one go?

I'm not sure why you've started this thread, are you trying to become LOTRs new spokesman? If so I'd get more arguments than one which is wrong and it didn't get a film made, it must be bad.

Damn, hard choice. Got to say I like TES better.

I poll would be in order it seems. Can you add a poll.

If there were a poll I would vote LotR, though I love TES. But I can't vote because there isn't a poll. I wish there were a poll.

And by my understanding, World of Warcraft is still beating the pants off of LOTR Online. And it became popular before Blizzard released ANY books off of it.

So, what's your point?

Anyone else thing that whiterun is a copy of Rohan? I mean the symbol is even a horse.

It's a blatant reference to it, not necessarily a copy of it. Very similar, even the structure of the city itself. The Jarl is even quite similar to the King of Rohan, concerned purely with the interests of his people and hesitant of becoming embroiled in other affairs.

Indeed, though to me Warcraft will always hold a special place in my heart and even though I quit WoW 2 years ago I still have around 90% of the lore up to that point in time permanently seared into my brain from countless hours reading the lore articles on the wiki.

Funny that as much as I love LotR, when I am telling bedtime stories to my nephew I tell him tales from the Forgotten Realms, The Champion Of Kvatch, the Great Gods of Valhalla (he is particulary fond of wolves and likes to call me Uncle Fenris due to my large appetite) and the Histories of Azeroth and yet I have thus far failed to ever bring up Sam or Frodo or The One Ring...

Yeah it was obviously influenced by Rohan. And Markarth looks very similar to Helms Deep. It's not necessarily a bad thing though.

I don't get Helms Deep from Markarth at all to be honest.

TLotR and The Hobbit are awesome; genuine classics of the English language. TES is an awesome series of games, and well written, but I have fairly hard-and-fast rules about franchise literature. Really, just one rule: Hell no. I've read quite a few Star Trek novels in my younger days, a couple Star Wars novels as a kid, the original Dragonlance series as a teenager, the Timothy Zahn novels and one other SW novel as an advlt, and I said enough was enough. I love Mass Effect, but I'll never, ever read a Mass Effect novel. I love Halo, but I would die before reading a Halo novel. There's no way in hell I'll ever read an Elder Scrolls novel. I've dabbled in franchise fiction before, and it unversally stinks, no matter how awesome the origins of the franchise in question are. The original Star Trek is one of the greatest television series of all time - I think they'll be watching it in a hundred years from now - but seriously, the novels are bad. Star Wars outside of the movies is terrible - comics, novels, even the plots of most of the games I've seen.

Never, ever, ever, no matter how desperate for beach reading I become, will I ever read an Elder Scrolls novel, a Halo novel, a Mass Effect novel, a novel written about a superhero - NEVER. I'd rather have another root canol.

The situations are entirely different. Theoden was under a spell, placed there by a man in the pay of Saruman. Balgruuf is just sticking to the middle because he's wary of both sides.

I read a Fable novel (The Balverine Order) which I actually quite enjoyed. Of course then I played Fable III and my disposition towards the series dropped dramatically.

Your logic is flawed. Game of Thrones was written in 1990 or something, and the tv show was just made. Just because a book is really good it doesn't mean that it will just become a movie just like that.
Anyways, I prefer the lore and the world of TES. The story of LOTR is better though.

As far as story goes I would have to say LOTR by a longshot, but lore wise I'm more of a fan of TES lore.

Look at it from the outside, it looks similar with the tower rising up from inside of it and the fact that it's built up against a mountain/valley/whatever you want to call it. It doesn't resemble Helms Deep much from the inside really. It's not nearly as obvious as the Whiterun - Edoras comparison though.