Skyrim Rig advice : Othor Games

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:04 am

Getting a new PC,

Have some questions:

Is there any reason to get an i7 processor over an i5? (recommended is just a quad core)

Is an AMD HD 6770 enough to run the graphics on max? (not so concerned about maxing antia aliasing for example, more important with full shadows and draw distance, with high tex mods)

getting 8gb of ram

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:20 am

Getting a new PC,

Have some questions:

Is there any reason to get an i7 processor over an i5? (recommended is just a quad core)

Is an AMD HD 6770 enough to run the graphics on max? (not so concerned about maxing antia aliasing for example, more important with full shadows and draw distance, with high tex mods)

getting 8gb of ram

Go for the best you can afford. always.
dont shy off on the mobo like most idiots do, your bus speeds on the NB are just as important if you get a beast CPU and your northbridge is [censored], you will bottle neck.

I run amd Phenom 1100 black x8 @4.2
8 gigs ddr3
1100 AMD NB on mobo with SB of 990 (not as important)
with dual MSI Radeon HD 6990's (one disabled for skyrim as it doesnt run well) and the game is on super ultra maxie settings and runs great.

With PC for gaming, Go big or dont spend the money.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:27 am

I'm getting a Dell XPS so I assume the quality of the stuff is good. I don't know what mobo and NB is, is that something to be concerned about with the XPS package?

Back to my actual questions lol

I assume with a 6770 amd an i5 is enough and an i7 would just be overkill

I'm trying to hit the right value point here and not spend hundreds on minor improvements

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:22 am

What is your budget OP?

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:35 pm

I'm getting a Dell XPS so I assume the quality of the stuff is good. I don't know what mobo and NB is, is that something to be concerned about with the XPS package?

Back to my actual questions lol

I assume with a 6770 amd an i5 is enough and an i7 would just be overkill

I'm trying to hit the right value point here and not spend hundreds on minor improvements

NO NO NO NO!!!

Do NOT buy a Dell xps to run skyrim... that is ridiculous... If you are going to buy from dell get an alien ware (even the base line will be better) do not buy an XPS...

but if you are really persistent about it. i can get you a good deal on one..

(I am a Dell partner and i have three XPS right next to me atm!)

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:10 am

ca 1200 with monitor

For that I get 6gb ram, amd hd 6770, i5 processor, 24inch monitor - on dell.com xps model

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:47 am

ca 1200 with monitor

For that I get 6gb ram, amd hd 6770, i5 processor, 24inch monitor - on dell.com xps model

Whats your budget? I will build you a custom rig right now that will blow the xps out of the water...

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:01 am

No point in buying an i7 over an i5...

There isn't much difference between them that warrants the price gap so I would just reccommend the i5 with a good MB and just OC it.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:30 pm

No point in buying an i7 over an i5...

There isn't much difference between them that warrants the price gap so I would just reccommend the i5 with a good MB and just OC it.

You cant OC it.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:07 pm

Don't pay through the nose for a Dell or an Alienware. Get a friend to design and build you one and buy the parts from ebay or newegg, you will save so much money and will be much happier if your friend knows what he/she is doing. My friend just built me a pc for under $1000 that will run anything problem free. I have no problems running any games I buy.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:55 am

IMHO:
- the game mostly only uses 2 cores, so 4 cores will be fine. (I believe modern CPUs will shunt threads between tied cores for various reasons).
- the game is limited to 2gb of ram normally. The LAA patch theoretically changes that to 4gb. Windows 7 etc would like around 1gb. 6gb seems like more than enough, 8gb is obviously good too.

Otherwise:
- if you want to run mods, look at your VRAM as well as the processor on the card. 2gb > 1gb >>> 0.5gb >>>>>> don't go here.
- strongly consider an SSD.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:10 am

You cant OC it.

I5 2500k? Then why is mine OCd to 4.2ghz if it can't be OCd then? Haha.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:34 am

goodluck

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:23 am

Go for the best you can afford. always.
dont shy off on the mobo like most idiots do, your bus speeds on the NB are just as important if you get a beast CPU and your northbridge is [censored], you will bottle neck.

I run amd Phenom 1100 black x8 @4.2
8 gigs ddr3
1100 AMD NB on mobo with SB of 990 (not as important)
with dual MSI Radeon HD 6990's (one disabled for skyrim as it doesnt run well) and the game is on super ultra maxie settings and runs great.

With PC for gaming, Go big or dont spend the money.

That's kind of ironic considering you're using an AMD CPU lol

I disagree though, there's no need to spend the extra money in most cases. An i5 2500k is the much better price/performance option, and the i7 adds nothing to a gaming experience anyway.

There is a difference between underspending and avoiding overspending.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:07 pm

I5 2500k? Then why is mine OCd to 4.2ghz if it can't be OCd then? Haha.

"HAHA"?

What MoBo do you have...
You cant OC Dells... trust me...

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:52 am

NO NO NO NO!!!

Do NOT buy a Dell xps to run skyrim... that is ridiculous... If you are going to buy from dell get an alien ware (even the base line will be better) do not buy an XPS...

but if you are really persistent about it. i can get you a good deal on one..

(I am a Dell partner and i have three XPS right next to me atm!)

NO NO NO...do NOT buy an alienware to run skyrim! that is ridiculous! they are waaayyyy overpriced. many places to get a better custom built rig for less if the OP cares to post budget and location.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:30 pm

That's kind of ironic considering you're using an AMD CPU lol

I disagree though, there's no need to spend the extra money in most cases. An i5 2500k is the much better price/performance option, and the i7 adds nothing to a gaming experience anyway.

There is a difference between underspending and avoiding overspending.

First and formost. Intel has NO edge on AMD for gaming... whatsoever.
Second off, you spent entirly too much on your dual video card setup and trip your CPU. you bought an i5 and then bought two 560's? who are you to talk?

In the world of electronics, specifically computing spending more will ALWAYS get you a better product when it comes to hardware.
cost will ALWAYS directly reflect the consistency and benefit.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:30 pm

Do not build a rig to "max" this game until its stable and optimized (if ever)

budget to make a rig that runs BF3 or Witcher 2 at max with everything enabled. Games like those utilize PC hardware to its full potential. Skyrim attempts to, but by code and design, just doesn't do it well....

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:30 am

Do not build a rig to "max" this game until its stable and optimized (if ever)

budget to make a rig that runs BF3 or Witcher 2 at max with everything enabled. Games like those utilize PC hardware to its full potential. Skyrim attempts to, but by code and design, just doesn't do it well....

How is everyone able to look at Skyrims code...? This isnt an open source game, no one on these boards knows a thing about the games code... The engine maybe, but not the code itself...

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:35 pm

Go for the best you can afford. always.
dont shy off on the mobo like most idiots do, your bus speeds on the NB are just as important if you get a beast CPU and your northbridge is [censored], you will bottle neck.

Critically important. Quality of all components is a factor. No idea why a lot think the MB is a "low" priority when in reality it is the friggin main highway to ALL other components system wide. With a [censored] MB you could have awesome uber speed RAM, but have the system go unstable or puke with big bus speeds because the MB is built with cabbage and ducttape materials.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:04 am

How is everyone able to look at Skyrims code...? This isnt an open source game, no one on these boards knows a thing about the games code... The engine maybe, but not the code itself...

My apologies, perhaps i should have left that particular word out... Point still stands...

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:49 am

Critically important. Quality of all components is a factor. No idea why a lot think the MB is a "low" priority when in reality it is the friggin main highway to ALL other components system wide. With a [censored] MB you could have awesome uber speed RAM, but have the system go unstable or puke with big bus speeds because the MB is built with cabbage and ducttape materials.

This man knows whats going on.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:43 am

I'd go for the custom rig if I had the time/was willing to risk it.

I can have my dell here in 5 days ready to go with warranty.

Thanks for the answers on the processor.

What about getting an Nvidia GTX560Ti with 1.25GB? For 150dollars more than the AMD 6770 I don't think it's worth it but I don't know if somehow this card is awesome.

Thanks for the rig offers btw guys but I'm too cautious to go through an internet stranger

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:58 am

Just to be clear (and thanks mage fore being cool) I am not a dike, i do this for a living, 18 hours a day 8 days a week. I am a certified dell reseller and a dell partner as well as many other companies. When i hear people saying things like, go big with ram and video card, and leaving the rest out. its just silly. run your os on a sata HDD and run your game off of an SSD if you want to make up for mistakes like that. there are a million different tweaks to get a system running right, but buying quality will give you the bigest boost from the gate.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:32 am

ca 1200 with monitor

For that I get 6gb ram, amd hd 6770, i5 processor, 24inch monitor - on dell.com xps model

if you want a system that will stomp the guts out of that dell..and can't build your own.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227379

I have never, nor will ever buy a pre-built, I don't even like recommending them, but save up some money. Also that is newegg ca.

if you are running a business, there is nothing wrong with buying a dell. if you want gaming/performance, build your own.