spyware on 141 million cell phones

Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:02 am

I bet that if you look through the paperwork of the relevant carriers you'll find that anyone who's agreed to it has given permission for such spying to be done.


Maybe so.

I'm still not sure if this applies to every country.
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Etta Hargrave
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:38 am

Maybe so.

I'm still not sure if this applies to every country.


http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2011/12/03/carrieriq/
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Greg Cavaliere
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:40 am

Maybe so.

I'm still not sure if this applies to every country.

In general I'm sure that all logs are kept for legal reasons and would require a police warrant or court order to have access to any information you have sent.

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It's okay, no one will know you're part of an Eastern European multinational crime syndicate :wink:

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Ezekiel Macallister
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:45 pm

Is this somehow surprising, in this day and age where your car can call the police if you're in an accident, the police can track you via your SmartPhone if they feel a notion to, and apps that people willingly install can tell everyone the address of the coffee joint you just walked into?

...it's all in the name of getting to know your likes/dislikes & habits, so they can serve sell you properly! :)
...it's also the reason I don't have any "Smart" devices.


Not surprising to me at all. All customer supports requires capturing of client details to certain extend. How much would you trust the carriers? To me not at all. That's also part of the reason I have no use of these "smart" devices.

I work in supporting service desk, we are close to HR, so whenever there is a new guy on board, we would know right away how to configure his/her profile, and record everything into the system. When you are monitoring firewalls, routers and switches, there's no company secrets from you. Anyone with some understanding of networking knows that the only safe way to not reveal anything to others, is to sign off.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:12 am

http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2011/12/03/carrieriq/



In general I'm sure that all logs are kept for legal reasons and would require a police warrant or court order to have access to any information you have sent.

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It's okay, no one will know you're part of an Eastern European multinational crime syndicate :wink:



Yeah. Cheers!
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:40 pm

I bet that if you look through the paperwork of the relevant carriers you'll find that anyone who's agreed to it has given permission for such spying to be done.

I thought they had to gain explicit consent for this sort of thing (in the EU at least) rather than just tacking it onto the terms and conditions...
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:39 pm

In general I'm sure that all logs are kept for legal reasons and would require a police warrant or court order to have access to any information you have sent.

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It's okay, no one will know you're part of an Eastern European multinational crime syndicate :wink:




not in California http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/10/warrantless-phone-searches/
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:34 pm

That's unsettling but the worst they'd find is "I don't want you to take this badly because you're my best friend, but I just don't like dating." So yeah, nothing exciting going on in my life, haha.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:41 am

That's unsettling but the worst they'd find is "I don't want you to take this badly because you're my best friend, but I just don't like dating." So yeah, nothing exciting going on in my life, haha.

Actually, you should be aware that they're planning on making that illegal and punishable by scrofula.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:22 pm

Actually, you should be aware that they're planning on making that illegal and punishable by scrofula.

Making what illegal?
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:12 pm

Making what illegal?

Writing "I don't want you to take this badly because you're my best friend, but I just don't like dating." And anything else that they think should be punishable by scrofula.
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Steven Hardman
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:27 pm

Or by...wait for it...hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:27 am

Well fortunately I don't have this on my phone. I checked with the Voodoo app. (Thanks DEFRON for linking that app article)
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:14 am

In general I'm sure that all logs are kept for legal reasons and would require a police warrant or court order to have access to any information you have sent.

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It's okay, no one will know you're part of an Eastern European multinational crime syndicate :wink:


They also sell your info to advertisemant companies. ;)
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:32 am

*Points* Ha-ha, you're being spied upon !

Me and my prehistoric "in case of road trouble" phone, we're so going Nelson on you crazy techno-kids. :P

Sadly, kidding. Even Proto-phone can be creepy. Last holiday, me and my sis went to a clothes sales. I pay with my bank card... A few hours later, I receive a text advertising for new rebates on that very specific sale. I have not the slightest frelling clue how that text could reach me, I never give my number. I can only assume it however appears somewhere tied to my bank card - my sis didn't buy anything, didn't receive a text.

So freaking invasive. :mellow:
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:14 pm

If they want to know about my upcoming lectures and how drunk I was last night then they are free to know. Hell, I'll even send it to them direct if they just ask.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:49 pm

I thought they had to gain explicit consent for this sort of thing (in the EU at least) rather than just tacking it onto the terms and conditions...

That may be the case, Europe generally being a lot better when it comes to things like that. But in the USA (and other countries), corporations can get away with a lot of dubious stuff.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:46 am

That may be the case, Europe generally being a lot better when it comes to things like that. But in the USA (and other countries), corporations can get away with a lot of dubious stuff.

Even if it is the law here, I think it's regularly flouted anyway (the BT/Phorm scandal being an example of businesses getting away with doing illegal stuff with impunity.) But in theory it's supposed to be the case; I suspect in some other parts of the EU, the legislation is actually enforced.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:17 am

This is hardly the greatest threat to my privacy when it comes to texting: Verizon already logs all texts that go through it's service, and has proven itself more than willing to give that information up at the whim of any warrentless government agency.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:49 am

I've long since assumed that no matter where I am or what I'm doing, somebody is watching. I no longer give a crap.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:29 am

I noticed that this crap is included in iOS. So, iPhones certainly have it, but what about iPads? It seems likely, yet no one mentions it. Hmm...
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:46 am

Well the way I see it is, it was bound to happen. One of the big apple claims has always been that you don't need to worry about viruses but you obviously do. You create any operating system and someone will try to break it. With the popularity of ipads and iphones it won't be long until you have to pay for tablet versions of anti-virus software.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:02 am

Bitdefender has released a detection app for Android phones (> version 2.1) http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Bitdefender-Carrier-IQ-Android-Rootkit-Mobile-Security,news-13394.html
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