So I've actually spent some time watching some dawnguard videos of people playing it to get a general idea of it with out spoiling it. As I went from video to video and person to person I got to see other peoples play styles and boy was it ugly... For starters every single person had daedric armor, now being that its the most "powerful" base armor in the game you can still make other armors as powerful, but thats besides the point. It seemed to me that not only did these players have the most powerful armor but I am almost certain they were playing on either normal difficulty or lower. So all the while I started to see a pattern, run through the dungeon and mindlessly kill everything with one hit and no tactics. That alone started to svck the fun out of the play through.

Ok so that may be bearable for some but some of the things they do and say gives you an idea where there mind is. Like I seen one guy go through a chest and looked at meridias beacon and said "what is that" immediately after he ignored it looted everything else and left the dungeon. So that got me thinking do players really play skyrim like this. Then I watch another video where this guy is ranting on difficulty saying it was too easy, mind you he has a full daedric set and who knows what difficulty. Now I'm not against one hit killing things sometimes hey if your gear is good and you are strong enough why not. I am against it being ridiculously unbalanced where you take nearly no damage while you deal a great deal. I've even seen guys use their healing potions with almost a full bar of health.Wow.

"So get to the point 4skyrim". When I hear skyrim is boring or skyrim is ok in a tone like they downplay it as just some other game and then I see how they play its just appalling. Sorry buddy Skyrim is boring because you make it that way, dont blame the game if you lack imagination on the virtually limitless amount of ways you can make the game fun.

In the end dont take this as an offense just take it as an eye opener to a better experience. I dont know maybe I'm wrong for expressing this to you guys but its something I had to share with others. Tell me your thoughts on the matter.

Why deck out in daedric when you can deck out in enchanted robes? Now that is at the armor rating cap! Let's deck out in some wonderful low level armor, too!

I am saying 90% of this with full seriousness.

I think Elder Scroll games in particular are what we make of them. If we put little into them, we get little back. If we put a lot into them, we get a lot back.

It comes down to looks. So if you are a mage right, would you really run around in daedric. And the armors are not "low level" if they are all capped. Personally if I was playing a good character I wouldnt run around in daedric. But thats my point, simple things like this some people dont think of. Its like being alive vs living your life. Same concept.

Great comment!

I was playing a thief/hunter who wore robes. He is a thief now and uses the guild armor for work more than anything.

A creative way to make that work is a thief commonly disguises themselves as somebody else.

Thats what i'm doing right now. A normal Wood Elf during the day, a Nightingale by night.

P.S.- I love your videos!

My character is a depressive loner exile Khajiit. He pretty much would rather be dead half the time. Except, he kind of has some driving force to live still.

Truthiness.

I absolutely love the look of Daedric armor, but I put that on Lydia with the set maxxed out to regular legendary level and a regular legendary Daedric greatsword so as to not make her overpowered and then I have a full set of Dragonbone armor maxxed out and upgraded past what legendary is by using enchanted smithing apparel and blacksmith's potions to make it a bit stronger along with an equally "legendary+" Daedric battleaxe and "legendary+" Daedric bow.

To me, the Daedric armor looks like something an evil badass warrior or knight would wear and the Dragonbone armor looks like something a benevolent legendary warrior or knight would wear. I also kinda' like and appreciate the Dragonbone and Dragonscale armors more than the Daedric sets because it's something completely new to the series and since Skyrim's main storyline is centered upon the dragons and Alduin returning and you finding out you're the Dragonborn and must stop them, it feels more appropriate for me to wear them, plus, again, I kinda' like them better.

I also only carry 10 or 20 of any kind of potion at a time, for example, 10 of the stronger healing potions and 20 of the weaker ones and the same goes for stamina potions.

My only abilities are shouts and I only increase my health and stamina every level, so, health for every even level, starting at level 2 and stamina every odd level, starting at level 3, so they're both even. My shouts are only augmented with the Amulet of Talos (I'm pretty sure that's the only thing you can augment them with for PS3) and I primarily use Elemental Fury for the faster swings since I use a battleaxe. All of my skills are melee focused so I actually have to work at leveling them up and fight against increasingly tougher opponents and/or bigger crowds of enemies.

My difficulty is at the 3rd, above normal and once I reach level 40 (I'm 30 now), I'm going to increase it yet again.

The character I'm describing is my favorite and he's pretty much standard play style for me in terms of melee warriors. I have 19 characters so far and I play all of them slightly differently to reflect how I'm utilising the game for each one of them. I also name all of them with completely unique/original names that reflect the naming conventions of the races of Tamriel so again, they feel more connected to the game world for me.

I go to college for game design and graphic design and I've been playing games since I was 4, so I put a lot of time and thought into my playing and how I approach each new game and character for said games.

Also, I've had the game since day 1, but I started this new warrior after not having played since late December-I play so many games and beat them so quickly that I get kinda' bored and need to go play something new soon after before I finally return to previous games. I started this new character 5 days ago to refamiliarize myself with the game and to get back into the swing of things by the time Dawnguard is released for PS3.

Personally, I think that's an oversimplification of things. To play Skyrim normally as you would any other game results in your character rather quickly becoming overpowered. The fact that you have to sit around and think up new ways to gimp yourself or otherwise make the game more difficult, to me, seems to be more of a symptom.

I consider myself a roleplayer. I don't min/max. I create my characters and play them accordingly. I go with weapons and armors that fit the characters, rarely choosing the high end stuff (frankly, I think the high end stuff is all ugly, anyways). I install mods to enhance my experience like http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/11163 and http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18436 There is one thing I see repeatedly on this forum, though, that rather annoys me. When people come forward and complain that Skyrim is boring or some such, there is a segment of the population that steps forward and says, in essence, that Skyrim is just fine. All you have to do is pretend the problems don't exist and Skyrim is a wonderful game. And in the process they heavily imply that anyone that doesn't do that is playing wrong.

On another note, they said that you could start the Dawnguard content at around lvl 10, so yeah, it'd be easy for anyone at a high enough level to have full daedric.

I agree and frankly rather unkindly think that often those who think its an oversimplication are edemic of the general trend to overcomplicate everything.

I only wear Daedric Armor because it fits my character (excluding the helmet because I absolutely hate it). Kind of a dark demonic Imperial who traps souls of many. His name being Legion, it makes sense. Even with Daedric Armor I still struggle through many challenges in the game. A lot of it being Ancient Dragons and Vampires that throw giant ice spikes at me. I highly depend on restoration spells to keep me going in a battle and I use the Mace of Molag Bal, a weapon that isn't overpowered, but good. I plan on raising my difficulty level before I get Dawnguard. I don't wear Daedric Armor because it's the most "powerful" armor in the game, but because of role playing purposes.

Going back to this idea... my vampire character wears Dawnguard Armor. I do this because I love the armor. But I like to tell myself it's to blend in with society, and even the Dawnguard itself. Obviously, this isn't so in game, but roleplaying is fun.

I completely agree!

My current playstyle is certainly off the beaten path and not for everyone, but i now have over 300 hours in this character and it's still as much fun as in the beginning.

I keep coming back ...

So true. We are each responsible for our own actions.

Personally I've found each of my nine characters challenging, and only began to feel powerful when the playthru is coming to its conclusion at around levels 45-50

That was wise said.
I'm truly agree with you.
Especially when there are many players complain how boring skyrim is, but if they are playing like that... and complain to much..
Dude, I think you're not learn something.

my character is a nord and wears ancient nordic. just cuz daedric is better, i wear ancient nordic for the experience

You don't need a high level to have full Daedric, you just need to farm the hell out of leather and leather straps and smith like a mofo, but I also go out and fight to level up my other skills since they're crucial to the game and your character development.

Having to min/max things or coming up for ways to nerf a game isn't a symptom, especially not if the game is tailored for that kind of playing so your point on that particular matter is invalid. I'm not flaming you on that matter, just pointing out an error in your thinking is all.

Also, if you don't want to use the higher-end armors, good for you, that's what roleplaying is about, playing a game as if you're in that world, living and experiencing it the way you choose to, just like how you choose to go about things in real life.

Yeah, I personally wear unmodified adept robes of conjuration, and that's about it. The character being an Argonian Mage, I like the idea wearing something light that can easy be removed if he needs to flee into the water whilst his summons divert attention.

On another I use scaled armor, just because I love the look of it. My Bosmer looks dashing in it.

It's not invalid. I sincerely doubt they intentionally designed the game in such a way that you are required to gimp yourself to make it enjoyable. And that's exactly what you're suggesting they did.

So its the persons lack of imagination that makes the game boring? no no I disagree

different strokes for different folks applies here sure, and not everyone and their grandmother is going to think Skyrim is excited (setting, theme, etc etc) but under no circumstances should someones enjoyability lay solely on the power of Imagination^tm. Your mental machinations are not shipped with the game, it is not a requirement labeled on the box and is never touted as a Selling point.

Here ye Here ye folks if you think you're the target of this thread, There is nothing wrong with you if you've become bored after 100 hrs, the perceived requirement however for Skyrim's replayability however is double sided. on one hand hell yeah it encourages you to do something different, go at it with a different swing, get out of your element and do something new...with yourself.

on the other hand if you play all the Guild quest lines initially...there really isn't anything new in the outcomes, and how you do it while it may be different...(sword this time?, magic this time? Sneak this time?) lets be honest it leads to the same outcome done and done. its up to you to artificially alter your play style to get a rise out of the game, rather than the game altering itself to get a rise out of you.

So folk please stop making blacksheep out of others because they don't exercise the power of imagination, some people want to play what the game has to offer rather than form their own mental constructs of which ultimately do not exist as far as Skyrim is concerned

First, no one said you HAVE to gimp yourself, I don't, I make it harder because I like a challenge, I like the gameplay to feel more realistic and dangerous to my character (Like playing a FPS on the hardest difficulty), but the option to increase or decrease the difficulty for players who find the game too hard or too easy is IN the game, just like in Oblivion and if you're allowed to use enchanted items and potions to increase the effectiveness of weapons and armor then that's EXACTLY what they did, it's not a suggestion, it's a fact, simple as that.

THIS!!!