I really wish the hate for steam workshop would just end. Most of the complaints about it, or even Steam in general, are just hypothetical scenarios or lack any grounds.
Workshop:
- no search system at all
- no image section
- too many pointless house and mini mods in my opinion
- worse legal agreement for modders (no full copyright + fee possibility)
- bad mod manager, if you can even call it that
- I keep logging out of the online Steamworks pages all the time for some reason
- automatic installation breaks the installation of more complicated mods with different options and folder structure.
- must have .esp file
- unsubscribing mod does not delete the files
- Yes, there is a search system. It is on the right side of the page.
- It does have a section for the author to upload images.
- Nexus has its share of pointless mods too.
- You have to keep in mind that the Steam workshop agreement was written for TF2 player-made items. As for the no full copyright, Minecraft has this possibility too so that if a modder makes a feature before they do, they can still implement it. And last time I checked, nobody was complaining about that. Also, didn't the creation kit EULA state that you don't fully own copyright to stuff you create with it in the first place? We should be grateful that we actually GET a creation kit, since most games don't have easy to use modding tools like it.
- I agree that it could use some work. It's supposed to be simple, though.
- Your problem.
- Never had that problem, don't know what you are talking about. Are you sure Workshop is to blame?
- It's a limitation. They aren't exactly ready for people to start uploading their own custom 20GB 4096 by 4096 complete retextures of the game quite yet. You can do plenty with just an ESP though.
- It disables the mod. If this is a problem, hard drive prices have gone down quite a bit since that tsunami that wiped out the factories and warehouses. You can buy a 2TB drive for $120, which is dirt cheap.
And since Nexus lovers will probably listen to Dark0ne, let me quote a news post:
While I don't want to put a downer on the festivities, I wanted to put up a quick cautionary news post about our rules and the concept of respect, because I know everyone is really excited now and might do some dumb things they later regret.
First of all the Creation Kit is property of Bethesda and they can choose to put any DRM or protective measures they want in to their software. Similarly, like the mod authors, it is their right to decide how and where they distribute the software. The Creation Kit is only available through Steam at this time and until Bethesda tell us otherwise please do not try to circumvent that and upload the Creation Kit here. As much as we'd love to host it, we're not allowed to, and I'm afraid if you upload it here you will have your files removed and your account banned. The Creation Kit is only available to people who have actually bought the game, and we do ban admitted pirates here, so be careful what you say.
I fully pride myself on the respect we give to mod authors and their right to choose how and where their mods get distributed. It's something we've championed for 10 years now and we're not going to stop. Some mod authors are going to choose to be exclusive to one site (which is never a good idea, and I've said as much plenty of times!) while others will spread their files across Steam Workshop, the Nexus, PES and others. How and where mod authors host their files is their decision, and not yours, so if you see a mod on Steam Workshop that isn't on the Nexus you do not have a right to upload that mod to the Nexus without the author's express written permission. And vice versa from Nexus to Steam Workshop. Please remember that, because mod authors spend a hell of a lot of time releasing these mods for people to enjoy, so don't upset them by going against their wishes.
As for us, we're still busy working away. Getting the Creation Kit is great, and we'll see over the coming months how the Steam Workshop integration pans out. It's too soon to tell how it will affect things! When the dust has settled I'll do another video blog to share my thoughts on the events that have happened within the community, including what we're up to as well as the Creation Kit and Steam Workshop.
Happy modding folks.
Just stop with all the hate for one side or the other so the mod users can stop worrying about this pointless flame war. I can tell you already that I am tired of hearing it.