Stormcloak Question: Battle of Whiterun before MQ? : V

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:39 am

Has anyone done this, for the Stormcloak side? Does Vignar give you the dragon quests then?

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:04 pm

Bah.. move to Spoilers. I thought I was in that section. Sorry.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:20 am

Spoiler

You can't do it. Neither civil war quests will progress if you haven't finished the first dragon kill.

Balgruuf will refuse to answer either side until the dragon has been dealt with.

However after that, for the dragonsreach trap quest, Vignar will be the one that you coordinate it with.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:58 am

Spoiler

yes, vignar takes over giving the quests. you even get to become thane of whiterun all over again...

edit: i did the first dragon kill with the first jarl. then did the stormclaoks win, then did odhaaviing with vignar after that.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:43 pm

Thanks

edit: Wait, I'm confused again by Aphaea's comment.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:22 pm

Thanks

edit: Wait, I'm confused again by Aphaea's comment.

which part?

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:56 am

Thanks

edit: Wait, I'm confused again by Aphaea's comment.

What she said fits with what Cecilff2 said.

Spoiler

I did the same thing she did: I started the MQ when Balgruuf was in charge, by killing the first dragon when he was Jarl. Then I went and did the Stormcloak quest, and finished it. During the Battle of Whiterun, Balgruuf was replaced by Vignar. So when I went to do the final MQ phase involving Dragonsreach, I talked to Vignar.

What Cecilff2 said is also true: you cannot do the Battle of Whiterun until you have killed the first dragon. So in that sense it is impossible to do the entire Stormcloaks quest before doing any of the MQ.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:12 pm

When I did 'Dragonrising', Balgruuf (sp?) was Jarl. Then I went and did the civil war quest with the stormcloaks, and Vignar took over as jarl. Then ages later I visited the Greybeards etc, and when the part for trapping Odhaaving (sp?) came up, I went to see Vignar, and he gave me the quest.

EDIT: Thanks Phaid

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:21 pm

I have done that too.
Started main quest, finished civil war on stormcloak side, resumed main quest.
I was even in the middle of buying breezehome upgrades and was able to complete that with a different steward.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:52 am

I did it the same way as Aphaea too.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:31 pm

OK.. that is how my first playthrough went as well.

I was just wondering if the "players" change if you do the Civil War first, but as Cecliff pointed out, it seems you can't. I just thought it'd be interesting if Vignar was the guy who sends you to the Greybeards.