I just read about this baffling news on the internet and couldn't believe it. But apparantly it's true. At the CERN some particles arrived at a station a fraction too soon.

Might this be the end of modern physics as we know it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484

nope.

Not even the beginning of the end.


But maybe -finally- the end of the beginning.

one can only hope the monkeys errr.., labrats uhhh... I mean esteemed scientific community free of field related dogma.., finally get it right..

Oh modern physics has been approaching an end for along time.

Although I do find this interesting.

am no physicist,but heard something about the fact that light gets pulled into a black hole,was also a demonstration of faster than light possibilities (i did not understand it though :shrug: (i think it was something to do with the edge of a black hole speeding up the light :wacko: as i said am no physicist :blush2:

'Bout damn time.

Could be the beginning of the warp engine.

Just read this today too. Crazy stuff.

Knew it was possible.

To be honest I travel faster than light most days.

But in all seriousness, if this is true, it's insane.

Alright, own up. Who broke physics?

It cool that they made this discovery but unless we can build some sort of barrier around a ship or probe, you're not going to get very far. Still a nice little step in the right direction I think.

Perhaps the muon neutrinos decided to take a path through a hole in spacetime?

On the other hand, special relativity relies on postulates which are assumed to be true. For all we know, there's a paradigm shift incoming.

Nice...
:sits down and waits for FTL communications:





*FTL= Faster than light. Took it from Honor Harrington novels which takes place thousands of years in the future.

Gravity did. Because it doesnt make any sense at all. :shocking:

Time for FTL internet. Awww yeah.

People are forgetting that it was always known that faster-than-light travel is possible. The theory has been blowing back and forth between if it is or not for years now. also, Modern Physics is wrong, and all physicists know it. so many theories of physics too... the quantum theory is one of my faves too.

We're all part of a great cosmic joke anyway...

It would be interesting if true. I remember reading some article saying that they believed that was impossible. Silly humans

We've awoke a dev. We are blessed.


Anyway perhaps this might help explain why gravity doesn't exist at a subatomic level.

Nah, it just means it changes. Nothing breaks the Laws of Physics, it only means our current models need updating to incorporate new information and knowledge.

In reality, we humans hardly know anything. Any chemist, physicist, and mathematician worth their salt knows our models are piss poor, and it's a constant quest to get it as accurate as possible. Physics wasn't wrong, we were.

It is impossible.

Let's say you sit in a stationary chair for 10 minutes, you haven't moved anywhere, right? Wrong, you haven't moved through space but you have moved 10 minutes through time. Now, let's say you're sat in a car for 10 minutes travelling at 15m/s, you're travelling faster, right? Wrong, you're still travelling at the same total speed as you were when you were sat still.

The speed of light is 299,792,458 meters per second. If you're sat still right now, that's how fast you're travelling. You're just travelling that speed through time rather than through space. If you're in car travelling at 15 meters per second, you are borrowing 15 m/s from the speed of light. So now you're travelling 15m/s through space and 299,792,443m/s through time.

Now imagine you're in a spaceship travelling at near the speed of light, let's say 299,792,408m/s. You're travelling through space at 299,792,408m/s and through time at 50m/s, you're still travelling at the same speed as you were when you were stationary. If you speed up so that you are now travelling at the speed of light through space, you're now travelling through space at 299,792,458m/s and travelling through time at 0m/s.

You can't go any faster than that because you've ran out of time to borrow speed from, your total speed will always remain at the speed of light. Either a particle has done the impossible and broken the laws of physics or CERN have messed their numbers up. I'm guessing that it's the latter.

1. Break physics
2. Invent hyperspace travel
3. ???
4. Profit

Or perhaps we have the laws wrong?

It's totally gonna be the former.

There's another possibility -- which is why they are, as they say 'proceeding with caution'. Confusing experimental results MAY also arise from experimental error, equipment problems, and so on. I'm interested, but skeptical. Far too often, experimental results are released far too early (anyone remember cold fusion?).

That said, if it's true, physics is in for really interesting times.