He is a god, but in this game like all the Imperials are denying it because of wanting to squish all Nord traditions and gods out of the picture.

well, let's look at this from a lore perspective;

1: Tiber Septim became a Shezarine through heroic actions.

2: He then mantled shor/ysmir/lorkhan. Morrowind proves that acting as if you are someone/something long enough makes you into them. (Nerevarine, also a Shezarine.)

3: He's been revered as a god for atleast 2 eras. If things are what they are because of popular will, Talos has been a god and will remain so until the Thalmor gain a shezarine of their own to mantle and replace him.

4: In Oblivion, the blood of a divine is needed to go to mankar's paradise. Tiber Septim's blood suffices, proving his claim to godhood.

5: Despite the Thalmor's ban on his worship, he still retains power thanks to the masses who still worship him.

in tes it wouldn't matter, belief makes reality (some what i think)

He is a god though, three people mantled the dead space god and retook his place in the panthion. Talos is shor, or close enough no one could tell you the difference

Talos isn't a god. My character would wr-wr-wr-wr-wreeckkk him. Now there's a god. `tgm, `kill.

gg kthnxbai


In all seriousness though, I guess you could call him a God (i don't really need to explain. Everything that proves that is above this reply), but he's probably next to worthless to my character, as he is a Dunmer, and could give two [censored] about him. Never liked Talos anyway. Bring on 'dem Dibella Bewbies ;3 lol

This is also a concept the valenar elves from D&D are familiar with. if anything, the Thalmor are livid that their "superior elven minds" were equaled with human minds when Tiber gained apotheosis like Vivec, Almalexia, Nerevar, and Sotha Sil. (granted, all are Chimeri/Dunmeri in origin.)

True.

Talos is not a man made god...

Talos is a Dova made god.

he was a true son of Akatosh....

He wasn't the first emperor, but he was the first ruler of the Septim name. Do you even know of the Akaviri emperor or Reman Dynasty?

I don't see it like that at all... even Legate Rikke mentions Talos a few times. I see the Thalomor as the deniers and the Empire as merely agreeing to outlaw it (and then turn a blind eye) in order to get the White-Gold Concordat signed.

I could be wrong, but I never once saw any Imperial agent in Skyrim take anyones amulet of Talos, raid or otherwise destroy Talos shrines or Temples, or otherwise have a Talos crackdown. Frankly the Thalmor should be patrolling the Skyrim countryside ensuring/forcing compliance with the ban, they seem to be the only ones with a vested interest in it. I see the Empire as being pretty relaxed with policing the ban, and the Nords all worked up over what appears to be a pretty weak law.

There is a process by which a mortal can become a deity. Talos absolutely is a god. I recommend reading up on mantling, CHIM, etc. Informative, but also incredibly interesting. TES lore is amazing.




This is precisely true. The banning of Talos-worship was a part of the concordat. I would say it's more that the Empire are making a sacrifice while biding their time.

Good point, an obvious scam and he is hoping nobody notice, still it cure diseases.
However do we know how the altars work? they might be simple cast on use magic items, the priests reload them with soulgems like other items.

Talos appeared in Morrowind. I believe he is a legitimate god, just as much as the others.

"You'd think praying at his shrine would actually give you a benefit instead of +0%"

It gives 20%, thou info says 0%

See!!! he secretly loves you!!! (thou patch fixes the info on PC) But Talos shrines does work, and stack with Talos necklace. =D

Very close, this is indeed more or less what it is.
Talos is what is called an enantiomer of Lorkhan, a term from chemistry that means mirror-image.
(A mirror image is not the same as the original, see the difference between your right and left hand.)
Talos is a conglomerate entity of Wulfhart, Arctus, Septim and a few others.
What happened is that several Shezarrines, avatars of Lorkhan, with their lives so closely re-encacted the story of creation, they ascended.
As above, so below, as below, so above.

As a replacement of Lorkhan he is an affirmation of creation, a spoke in the Wheel, a big giant 'Yes'.
This is why the Thalmor want him gone.
Their ultimate goal is to shed the mortal coil and return to the endless possibility of Anu.
The Dwemer had the same goal, but where they tried to make their entire race into a god the Thalmor are trying to uncreate the world.

Everybody knows that all of the gods are elves and all other elves are demigods.

I see the Origin of Talos similar to the concept of jesus, Hercules ect ect. they were created gods made by people who thought that they were important. I can empathize with the Thalmor because of the history they have with humans especially Nords, but banning someones worship of something isn't going to just make it go away.
it's possible that Talos is a supernatural being but regardless of whither he is or isn't it doesn't really mean anything to me or my character. He makes his own destiny as do I.

Shouts regenerate 10% faster, gets my vote!

Actually, almost exactly the other way around.
Talos takes the place of Lorkhan in the pantheon.
He is a created god, created by himself. The ascension happened because the lives of Wulfharth, Septim, Early-Beard, Arctus and a few others so closely mirrored the story of creation that in effect they are one and the same thing.
This is called the walking way, when you walk the walk of a god until he is forced to walk like you.

No.
Now, go with Sithis.
And may the Nightmother wrap you in her cold loving embrace.

Well, Talos has a website... perhaps you can ask him? http://ask-talos.tumblr.com/

Sicne you can meet up with an aspect of him in Morrowind I'd say yeah he is....

That was one of my favorite moments in the game, even though it was just a short conversation. The timing and mystery behind it were perfect.

When you click on the shrine of Talos, it gives you a buff. That is proof that Talos is indeed one of the nine divines.

He is just a man who achieved a lot in his life and got promoted to god status, like emperor Augustus in ancient Rome.