Terms and Conditions : Othor Games

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:55 am

This is something I read almost automatically. I like to see what I can and can't do, even if it's the same old stuff other companies put in their disclaimers.

My question is:

Do you read the Terms and Conditions when they pop up and ask you if you agree with it?

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:43 pm

If it's from a company I usually deal with, not really. If it's EA, I just walk the other way. If it's some company that strikes me to be trustable like a used car salesman, I just dont do business with them.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:52 am

If it's something like EA, I'd definitely look at what I'm getting myself into.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:39 am

Depends on the owner of said Terms and Conditions. If I know I'm going to be using the site repeatedly, then I read them. If it's a one time thing, then no, I don't, because I won't care after that.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:06 am

I'm going to get rid of that "I just press 'yes' when prompted" thing in the poll since that's what you'd do if you said "no"

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:22 am

I can't even trust EA games on my PS3, I cant use the online features because I profusely refuse to agree to their terms fearing there may be some Big Brotheresque clauses like in half their other contracts.

Edit: And Masterthief basically described how I run too. If it's a one time thing I feel I can trust doing, I dont bother because I wont care afterwards, if it's a site like BGSF I read the clause.

I said no in the poll, do I get a cookie?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:39 am

I can't even trust EA games on my PS3, I cant use the online features because I profusely refuse to agree to their terms fearing there may be some Big Brotheresque clauses like in half their other contracts.

Edit: And Masterthief basically described how I run too. If it's a one time thing I feel I can trust doing, I dont bother because I wont care afterwards, if it's a site like BGSF I read the clause.

I said no in the poll, do I get a cookie?

:cookie:

Even though that's not in the terms of use :glare:

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:45 am

Speaking of EA, I don't like their "agreements," due to the fact that said "agreement" generally leads to six more "agreements" just to do one otherwise simple task.

In my experience.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:44 am

So it appears you guys DO read the Terms of use

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» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:26 am

I'm pretty sure everyone is obligated to say yes.

Especially when it comes to our forums terms and conditions...

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:26 am

To be honest, not really. I'm lazy. I don't want to read a wall of words.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:56 pm

If it's something like EA, I'd definitely look at what I'm getting myself into.

Ya, I agree with this! :laugh:

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:56 am

Rarely if ever do I read Terms and Conditions.

I think this has something to do with my earlier work on contracts. I used to have to read, understand and write contracts on a daily basis. I hated that job because I wasn't an attorney and they're very boring to read.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:25 am

I have read the Terms and Conditions (and EULAs) of all ZeniMax / Bethesda products and services that I use.

For everything else? Almost never.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:47 am

I haven't read a single one. Ever. I'm that lazy, and I don't care that much. Which is unfortunate if it ever comes back to bite me in the ass. Luckily, I have you guys, out there scouring the terms and conditions for me. I'm letting you all fight the battles.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:42 am

Don't read all those long walls of text I see when I register to a forum or install a new game. BGSF is an exception, having spent so much time here.
Of course all real world, physical deals I read thoroughly and keep copies of them in a safe place.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:48 am

Oh, boo, they finally fixed the wording :meh:

For the longest time deep linking clause in the T&C was extremely vague as to forbid any deep linking. Now it's finally fixed to only forbid deep-linking to Zenimax sites.

I've read many T&Cs, ToSes, EULAs, privacy policies, etc over the years.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:15 am

Terms and Conditions is just another term for "F . U., U wannit, gotta click it."

I'd wager dollars to donuts that it's not enforceable (and in no part due to South Park's episode 'Centipad').

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:38 am

I've read plenty. Not that I always understand half of what I have read, but I do try to at least skim through.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:37 am

Terms and Conditions is just another term for "F . U., U wannit, gotta click it."I'd wager dollars to donuts that it's not enforceable (and in no part due to South Park's episode 'Centipad').

Heh, I know how you feel lol. But hey, you never know what you might end up getting yourself into. Though that stuff mostly applies to hackers...and not the good kind.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:34 pm

Don't think I've ever read a single one.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:20 am

Nope, I've been here for 7 years and never bothered, nor on any other forum I joined, reason being, I don't join forums to get involved with litigant related matters such as their TOS. If what I post is not something they want to read, they simply warn/ban me, and whatever happens from there is what happens. I don't use explicitly personal information like my full name, address, SSN, credit card/bank account numbers, etc. to worry about what they say on it. Now, the terms and conditions of, say, opening a credit card, or when my wife and I filed for my permanent residence in Canada sans lawyer, yeah.. I read and understand all the fine print.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:33 am

I've read plenty. Not that I always understand half of what I have read, but I do try to at least skim through.

Pretty much this, I skim through most T&C's

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:49 pm

I read the headers and the first few sentences, their all the same really.
Don't sell copies of this illegally blah blah.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:21 am

I read the EULA for a game demo once. It told me I couldn't play if I didn't have the full game.

Seriously.