The best way to slow my level rate? : V

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:28 am

This is just a personal thing but I don't like how fast I level up. I'm not entirely sure how skills relate to levelling, whether it's all skills or the ones you use the most. But it seems the best way to slow my levelling would be to use as few skills as possible, since skills increase more slowly the higher they are, and your level progression goes up a bit every time you raise a skill. Is that right?

Or is it better to vary your skills?

Thanks.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:35 am

To start a game I would use one or 2 skills. 3 max but then you could spread yourself thin if your not careful. As far as what I have noticed though this game has very slow paced leveling. I played a few hours of oblivion, and it never too me 80+ hours to get a warrior to lvl 38. 80 hours and thats all I have to show for it

Also try not to read books as they WILL give your completely useless level ups in unwanted and unused skills. Its level [censored] if you ask me.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:03 am

Also, don't use the Guardian Stones. This helps out a little.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:30 am

This is just a personal thing but I don't like how fast I level up. I'm not entirely sure how skills relate to levelling, whether it's all skills or the ones you use the most. But it seems the best way to slow my levelling would be to use as few skills as possible, since skills increase more slowly the higher they are, and your level progression goes up a bit every time you raise a skill. Is that right?

Or is it better to vary your skills?

Thanks.

Use as few skills as possible. Perhaps it's best to play as a warrior at this aspect, as at most you'd only need 2 major skills to succeed:

Whatever type of weapon you like (2 handed, one handed/dual, bows)
Whatever type of armor you like (light, heavy, or none at all if you wish, saves one skill)
A shield, if you chose the single one-handed path

Oh, and use anything but the standing stone that quickens your learning rate. Steed is a good option in this aspect.

However, you will never be able to halt speech from going up.

Being a thief increases the level at amazing rate, especially the Pickpocket skill

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:16 pm

Don't forget you can get yourself arrested. This decreases the skill progress. I think if you want to decrease a lot of skills you should commit a big crime. I guess you can easily get this by killing a few guards.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:23 am

The simplest form I can think of is "sword and board" = One-handed, Blocking, Heavy Armor

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:46 pm

Remember though, that raising a high skill does much more for increasing your overall level, than raising a low skill does. So while it may take longer to raise One Handed from 79-80 compared to raising Sneak from 28-29, the 79-80 One Handed skill gain will contribute much more to your level up than the 28-29 Sneak will.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:45 am

Remember though, that raising a high skill does much more for increasing your overall level, than raising a low skill does. So while it may take longer to raise One Handed from 79-80 compared to raising Sneak from 28-29, the 79-80 One Handed skill gain will contribute much more to your level up than the 28-29 Sneak will.

If that's true then it doesn't matter.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:07 pm

If you want to make it really challenging on yourself and completely slow your leveling rate down, use hand to hand combat only. That pretty much sums up your answers in a nutshell. Never say it's impossible--as I know 3 people at my locale coffee shop that are h2h orcs lol xD

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:51 am

Don't forget you can get yourself arrested. This decreases the skill progress. I think if you want to decrease a lot of skills you should commit a big crime. I guess you can easily get this by killing a few guards.

LOL thats interesting, imagine Damn i want to stop levelling so much...
*spots guard*
*shoots guard in knee and steals sweetroll*

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:44 am

Whatever type of weapon you like (2 handed, one handed/dual, bows)
Whatever type of armor you like (light, heavy, or none at all if you wish, saves one skill)

However, you will never be able to halt speech from going up.

2 handed, dual destruction or archery and armor would be ideal since that's literally 2 skills, and no space for anything else.

Speech wouldn't be much of a problem seeing how it would give little to the level progress and how rarely it is increased via dialogues. Trading could be toned down by a lot if OP would collect and sell only pieces of great value instead of selling 20 little daggers and such. This ofc falls in water if the skill's increase is determined by value sold instead of times or amount sold.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:16 am

I agree with

Use as few skills as possible. Perhaps it's best to play as a warrior

This is good advice. My first character was a 2-hand warrior. I leveled up only with the 2-Handed, Heavy Armor and, occasionally, Speech skills. I didn't raise any other skills and I did not use a Guardian Stone. At the 50 hour mark I was still level 12. It felt excruciatingly slow to me.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:39 pm

Also, don't use the Guardian Stones. This helps out a little.

i tried that but the guy at the beginning of the game just stands there unless you pick a stone. i end up going back and picking the stone that i figure im going to use the least of. unfortunately i use at least a couple of skills from every class whether its mage, warrior or stealth.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:42 am

i tried that but the guy at the beginning of the game just stands there unless you pick a stone. i end up going back and picking the stone that i figure im going to use the least of. unfortunately i use at least a couple of skills from every class whether its mage, warrior or stealth.

If you continue on to Riverwood yourself and begin talking to Gerdur, Ralof eventually shows up. Don't worry, he won't stand there forever.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:16 pm

i tried that but the guy at the beginning of the game just stands there unless you pick a stone. i end up going back and picking the stone that i figure im going to use the least of. unfortunately i use at least a couple of skills from every class whether its mage, warrior or stealth.

That's what I thought too, and I thought "Oh great, he's going to stand there until I pick one." But he eventually got moving.

I thought it was quite a nice touch that whole part of the game where you walk to Riverwood together and he chats with you and points out local land marks. Then there's the scene where he meets his sister in town. The first time I played that I ran off by myself and missed it all completely.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:54 pm

2 handed, dual destruction or archery and armor would be ideal since that's literally 2 skills, and no space for anything else.

Speech wouldn't be much of a problem seeing how it would give little to the level progress and how rarely it is increased via dialogues. Trading could be toned down by a lot if OP would collect and sell only pieces of great value instead of selling 20 little daggers and such. This ofc falls in water if the skill's increase is determined by value sold instead of times or amount sold.

That's a good point as I think it is most likely the amount of times you sell something rather than the value.

Ok so lets say I go one handed, block, heavy armour. No Stones (except The Steed or one of the others that don't effect skills), don't read books, try to minimise how many items I sell and not use Persuade and Intimidate. That about it?

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:29 pm

This is just a personal thing but I don't like how fast I level up. I'm not entirely sure how skills relate to levelling, whether it's all skills or the ones you use the most. But it seems the best way to slow my levelling would be to use as few skills as possible, since skills increase more slowly the higher they are, and your level progression goes up a bit every time you raise a skill. Is that right?

Or is it better to vary your skills?

Thanks.

The leveling rate will slow down. It's really not anything you need to worry about or manage like you did in Oblivion.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:55 pm

That's a good point as I think it is most likely the amount of times you sell something rather than the value.

Ok so lets say I go one handed, block, heavy armour. No Stones (except The Steed or one of the others that don't effect skills), don't read books, try to minimise how many items I sell and not use Persuade and Intimidate. That about it?

yep, that'll do it. i'm a 1-h, light, block, archer nord and around 50 hours im only at level 19.

on a side- i still can't believe there's no option to actually unlock the skill point from a read book so that we can take it, read it and not use the point if we don't want to.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:42 am

That's a good point as I think it is most likely the amount of times you sell something rather than the value.

Ok so lets say I go one handed, block, heavy armour. No Stones (except The Steed or one of the others that don't effect skills), don't read books, try to minimise how many items I sell and not use Persuade and Intimidate. That about it?

3 skills should do the trick and cover all your battling skills if you chip in some RPing, if you ask me

Just bear in mind that you should probably take a few minutes on how will you assign perks so you can maximize the damage&defense efficiency.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:15 pm

Only use two-handed and heavy/light armour?

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:22 pm

Only use two-handed and heavy/light armour?

Pretty much. Since you talk to a lot of npc's to do quests, and have options to choose whether to persuade people, buy people off and so fourth, your skill in Speech will pretty much go up accordingly. Other than that, it'll also depend on the route your playing (i.e. archer, mage class, battle mage {also known as a Red Mage to me}, thief, and so on. =)

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:55 am

on a side- i still can't believe there's no option to actually unlock the skill point from a read book so that we can take it, read it and not use the point if we don't want to.

Order a follower to pick up the book. You can then take it from their inventory without reading it and store it for later use. Any book with a value of 50+ gold is likely a skill book.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:10 am

The levelling really takes care of itself at a certain point, or at least it has for me. Sure, you're going to level very quickly for awhile, but that evens out as you continually use the same skills over and over. I've started to plateau at level 38. Not sure how low you want to stay or why it's important to you, but it seems from what people have posted that you actually have to try really hard to get past 70.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:54 am

Order a follower to pick up the book. You can then take it from their inventory without reading it. Any book with a value of 50+ gold is likely a skill book.

holy crap! are you serious? don't be foolin' with me...

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:36 am

holy crap! are you serious? don't be foolin' with me...

no joke lol. when you have a follower, you can tell them to pick up items (including skill books) that'll drop into their inventory. From there, you can look in their item list and take the book without reading it.