I have a mod installed on my game that respawns groups of NPCs that fights with each other every so often. I bumped into this none hostile Imperial soldier and he started talking to me (I guess that's a glitch on the mod part). He said "What the rebels like to forget, is that the Empire's what's keeping the Dominion out of skyrim."

How so is that when (before I installed this mod) I encountered many of them prior to completing the civil war? I've seen many groups with prisoners. Is this the empires way of keeping the dominion out of skyrim?

I think they mean 'attacking and conquering' Skyrim, not keep them out in the sense that they aren't there at all.

That's a standard line in the vanilla game - I don't have mods installed that would affect that (only have the map with roads mod, USKP & HD DLC fix) and they say it occasionally.

I tookl it to mean the same as @Solitudian does.

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Only people that are there are Thalmor agents who are mostly mages. AD would be all the Altmer, Bosmer & Khajiit warriors. I've seen bunch of High Elven warriors take on the Stormys in Markath, and the Stormys get masscred all the time.

If Ulfric hadn't started a fuss, Justiciars wouldn't be in Skyrim.

Oh yeah. I was walking from Roriksted to Markath recently. First, I ran into a Thalmor + prisoner group. I took care of them, but the prisoner didn't make it. 200 steps further along the road, I ran into an Imperial + prisoner group, walking into the exact same direction as the Thalmor had been. They were rather obviously dragging their victim off to the same place.

So, I took care of them as well, and I even managed to save the prisoner. He thanked me in the name of Talos and went off to the east.

Better than the job Ulfric has done fighting the Dominion.

Ulfric is a dark Thalmor asset, who actively segregates Windhelm, ignores domestic problems in his capitol in favour of sending guards to the frontlines, is campaigning to become High King while using Talos worship as an excuse for insurrection, and is bigot who slaughtered innocent Reachmen in a militia campaign against the Forsworn.

The Imperials are biding their time for a second Great War, and Skyrim has less to complain about than Hammerfell. Hell, the Imperials turned a blind eye to Talos worship until Ulfric kicked up a stink and forced Justiciars in.

really Ulfric kicked up a stink? really where? because the last time i remember the Thalmor came to Skyrim AFTER Ulfric took the Reach back FOR the Empire who OFFERED a place to worship talos UNDER the EMPIRE's protection. The Thalmor caught wind of it, came to Skyrim and the Empire betrayed Ulfric and Ulfric been in prison for 10 years before he "escaped". The thalmor have been doign there thing for 10 yrs with Ulfric wasting away in prison after the empire betrayed and didnt hold up their end of the bargain.

So [censored] read up on ur lore before u start blaming Ulfric on the thalmor in Skyrim, It was the Empire who brought them into Skyrim with the truece, AND it was the Empire who CAUSED the Thalmor to actually start doing thier job because the Empire was stupid enoughto promise something they had no plans to keep.

The Empire used Ulfric as a scapegoat to cover thier ass at Markarth, and the Empire using Ulfric as a scapegoat to the people for the thalmor being here, when its actually the Empire fault for promising somethign totally against the thalmor wishes and the thalmor being in the empire' intel division and they came over to investigate,to which just like hammerfell the empire yet again abandoned someone else to the thalmor to save thier asses.

Actually, Jarl Igmund was the one who accepted Ulfric's offer to rid the city of Forsworn in exchange for Talos worship. He was not acting on behalf of the Empire but on his own accord. He was just mad that his father was killed and that he got kicked out of his hold.

Ahem, *puts on top hat, monocle, and mustache* as you have noticed what you have been seeing was not a large army of Thalmor but rather justicars, when the Imperials mention that the Empire is keeping the Dominion out of Skyrim they mean a large friggin invasion force.

Thus gentlemen the Imperials are not liars and I can give you reasons why to join the Imperials and why not to. Conversely I can give you reasons why to join the Stormcloaks and why not to. Your topic would kind of fall into the reasons why not to join the Imperials due to the small Justicar teams you see out there.

True but jarl is part of the empire and the empire at the time didnt have the troops to spare so they hired ulfric and his men. And technically at the time, ulfric was also part of the empire, he didnt officially renouce until recently. And the jarl is part of the empire because of his actions, if he didnt give ulfric up the empire woulda had to go to war to soon. If he was just acting on his own behalf that in now way affects the empire, why would there be a reason for a sooner war, thats because markarth is whhere the empire gets most of its silver from making it an emperial providence hence part of the empire.

And yes im a stormcloak supporter, but as the gentlemen above their are reason to be for and against either factions and said reasons could also be countered by other side. Its all about what fits ur personality as there is no real wrong side. BUT always be aware of propaganda which unfortuantly does seem like the empire has more of to make itself look better but I chaulk it up to how the people of cryodill vs skyrim are cultarlly, whats accepting and what looks bad is different in each nation. And the bear of markarth is huge pile of lying propaganda that even the empirial jarl gives us most of the info that defutes it.

I wouldn't blame the empire for Igmund or Ulfric's actions.

Just their own. They did sanction the deal after it was made. And then turned around and arrested the wrong guy.

And I dont blame the empire as a whole because of it, but it is reasonable to see it that way . I mean the empire is a hige grp of people but what one part of their body does and or agree to the whole should. Petty I know, but to me its like a police officer promises u protection to put away man for life, but afterwards the mafia comes and promises to wage war unless u giveus up and since the police force is still trying to rebuild itself, they give u up so they have more yo time to get rdy to take them out. The empire is suppose to be the protectors of their proveindses, hence why to me I see it in that light.

It is kinda the reason I have two different characters for each side

I would but the stormcloak side fits me like a glove, I could debate all day on the pro and cons of either and even on the pros and cons of its actual leaders. They did a good job giving both sides and leaders equal strenght and weaknesses, where it all boils down to the personalility or attitude of said side. Plus eh ur basically doing the same thing on each, im waiting ona dlc that actually shows us the consequences for our actions picking said side before I rp a empires man. Plus itll be awhile because I have discovered for the first the joys of morrowind and playong the hell outta it, then ill go to oblivion, then ill come back to skyrim.