Am I the only one that noticed this? : V

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:26 pm

Just curious if I'm the only one that noticed this, but if you play oblivion and go to Bruma (which is on the northern side of cyrodiil), It's mostly snowy 24/7. Now if you go play skyrim (which is directly above cyrodiil) and check out some of the southern parts of skyrim, you barely find any snow in that area. Anybody find this weird?

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:55 pm

Not really, I believe the elevation is higher in Bruma than it is in Riften and Falkreath.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:14 pm

The mountains that border it have snow on their tops. Bruma is high in elevation, in mountains. They don't match up precisely because they didn't have this all planned out years in advance.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:22 pm

That IS a bit weird now that I think about it..

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:42 pm

They didn't exactly plan that out.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:22 pm

Gamers getting bored of snow snow snow snow snow > lore.

» Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:29 am

I want to think that the elevation of the mountains is causing so much snow. Bruma is probably one of my favorite places in Tamriel and will be my a town I look forward to chilling in in ESO.
This makes me think of the huge Jarol mountains (right?) and how epic they were in Oblivion 4 years ago.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:20 pm

maybe it was snowier 200 years ago. but due to too much magic use tamriels climate is warming up

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:37 pm

Not really, I believe the elevation is higher in Bruma than it is in Riften and Falkreath.

This ^^ Mountains cause some crazy weather. It's perfectly realistic to climb up mountains on one side and encounter snow, then climb down into a plain on the other without snow. Gotta think, people can be suntanning then go to the top of a mountain and go snowboarding.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:03 pm

I would not say it's got anything to do with unusual or crazy weather for mountains, the higher in the air you are the colder it gets. If you drive up Mount Rainier for instance in Washington State in May, it will be summer below and 45 minutes up the road you're in 10 feet of accumulated snow. Did they not teach you guys this stuff in school?

Bruma is located in the mountains bordering the 2 regions, if they don't match up, it's nothing but an oversight.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:33 pm

maybe it was snowier 200 years ago. but due to too much magic use tamriels climate is warming up

...ok Al Gore.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:42 pm

Plus the mountains around Falkreath and Riften have snow...high up on them. I mean did you ever find that archer chick npc near falkreath? Snows like hell there

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:23 pm

Gamers getting bored of snow snow snow snow snow > lore.

This explains a lot.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:41 pm

The mountains that border it have snow on their tops. Bruma is high in elevation, in mountains. They don't match up precisely because they didn't have this all planned out years in advance.

Pretty much. OP, You just have to realize that in every video game, there are discrepancies between lore and gameplay

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:42 pm

I would not say it's got anything to do with unusual or crazy weather for mountains, the higher in the air you are the colder it gets. If you drive up Mount Rainier for instance in Washington State in May, it will be summer below and 45 minutes up the road you're in 10 feet of accumulated snow. Did they not teach you guys this stuff in school?

Bruma is located in the mountains bordering the 2 regions, if they don't match up, it's nothing but an oversight.

Well yes, obviously it's not just "crazy weather" as I said. It's just a descriptive way of saying that the weather can go from one to the other depending where you are. I didn't think a science class was really needed to say... This is just how it is in the real world.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:36 pm

It seems to be just right to me. Burma is on the South side of the mountain range, at a high elevation. Once you get South of Helgen, you start up the North side of the same mountain range and you run into snow.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:56 pm

I understand what you guys are trying to say here, but I don't think Bruma is at a higher elevation than the rift. I mean, there is a mountain range very close to it, but it seems to be level with the Imperial city. As for mountains being right beside it, same with riften and falkreath.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:19 am

Keep in mind that its 200 years later, its entirely possible that an after effect of the cataclysmic volcano event in Morrowind with the heart of lorkan caused a more widespead effect on the enviroment. Ash cover in the clouds may have cooled the areas affected to the point where Bruma was snow bound 24/7 rather than only a winter event. Since Skyrim is much later it gives the enviroment time to recover and stabalise back at a normal level. Which would mean Bruma was no longer snow bound 24/7.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:12 pm

Bruma does not have the heated air rising from a from a Vulcanically active area to keep it warmer than what it really should be. Helgen and Bruma are both very similiar in location and hieght, and thier weather matches very well. Riften would be a very smoggy place if Tamriel ever had an Industrial Revoltion based off of Wood or Fossil Fuels.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:51 pm

It's the snowy side of the mountains.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:39 pm

Cyrodill was also supposed to be full of jungles.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:58 pm

I understand what you guys are trying to say here, but I don't think Bruma is at a higher elevation than the rift. I mean, there is a mountain range very close to it, but it seems to be level with the Imperial city. As for mountains being right beside it, same with riften and falkreath.

Bruma level with the imperial city???? Not even close. Many a time I got annoyed when killing people on the road from Bruma and putting items down... and watching them roll away.... You can find many points where you can look down at the Imperial City.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:17 pm

Pretty much. OP, You just have to realize that in every video game, there are discrepancies between lore and gameplay

There really is No discrepancy here Bruma sits elevated above Riften and us totally understandable

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:02 pm

There really is No discrepancy here Bruma sits elevated above Riften and us totally understandable

Really? Hm, never would have guessed.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:54 pm

Just curious if I'm the only one that noticed this, but if you play oblivion and go to Bruma (which is on the northern side of cyrodiil), It's mostly snowy 24/7. Now if you go play skyrim (which is directly above cyrodiil) and check out some of the southern parts of skyrim, you barely find any snow in that area. Anybody find this weird?

Do a search, there's a pretty lengthy thread on this subject already.

It's not weird.
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