I'm sick of watching RAGE vids on Youtube and all the posts are "Hey Id is copying Gearbox because this is the same as Borderlands!" or "Hey this is a mixture of CoD, Borderlands and Fallout 3". Well it isn't, RAGE is an entirely unique game and why can't developers make a game without it being "Copied" from another game? Can't designers be unique today?

Firefall gets the hey it looks like borderlands things a lot more I think - by the way i love how the sky looks in this game wish it had some sort of jet pack so you can peer in the land below maybe see one of those gigantic creature

The game looks better than Borderlands but honestly it does look very similar in design.

It's similar to Borderlands because the desert setting implies that. It's similar in a way to Fallout because the action takes place in a post-apocalyptic world. It similar to CoD because you can shoot.
But none of the above statements suggest even in the slightest that game is a huge copy-cat. The game may be an entirely different experience. The only things that matter is the story, the atmosphere and the gameplay. If they are rock-solid, then screw the 'intellectuals' that dare make such stupid comparisons.


And how did you come up with that? Have you played the game thus making you think it has the same design? The only thing Borderlands and Rage have in common is the desert setting which doesn't suggest anything of how their design approaches are connected.

Hey dude, don't worry about it. People who compare Rage to all of these other games are just doing one of two things...Either they don't get the history behind Id Software and they don't understand that Id basically is the grandaddy of all FPSs and they cannot find a way to describe what they are seeing so they relate it to work that is already out there. Or they are so misinformed about Id that they just simply say dumb things that make no sense to people like us who understand the great contributions Id has made to the gaming community. They also must not understand that Rage has been in development for what 7 years now.

I will say that I want Id to get the game done right and completely bug free, but by not releasing the game before Fallout and Borderlands and others, they asked for this comparison bull to happen. They brought it upon themselves. If they would stop procrastinating and just release the game already, they would be the one that OTHERS would be comparing their games to.

Rage will be unique, fun and innovative upon its release. People will still compare previously released games to it. There is nothing you can do about it. But I agree 100% with you that there really is no comparison other than it is set in a post-apocalyptic setting--other than that--there is no other comparisons.

I know Id is working hard on getting it right, but if they are not careful they may mess it up by over tweaking and over polishing.

They're both based in the desert, they both focus heavily on driving elements, they are both FPS games relying on weapons as a selling point, and they both have similar looking raiders to boot. I never said it was a ripoff or anything like that I just said it looks similar to me. You're free to express your opinion but don't patronize me for mine, I call it like I see it.

Neither Borderlands nor Rage focus heavily on driving. Driving in Borderlands was almost always to get you from point A to point B. Almost all combat happens outside of the vehicle.

The truth is no matter how unique/original developers are, people are always going to make comparisons to other games if they have ANYTHING similar to them. That's how life is...that's how our minds think. No need to get frustrated.

That's actually what i was planning on posting before I saw yours. People love to compare Halo and COD, but the only thing similar between the two is that they're both FPSs. As long as it's as awesome as it looks, I don't care what game it's like.

Well I have no problem, with them "copying" styles and gameplay, as long as they innovate it not just plain copy...

Of all the forums you had to vent out on about naysayers, you had to choose the official company's forum, where there was none. A bit odd.

Its a game that's inspired VERY much by movies like Mad Max. (almost) Every post-apocalyptic game is, of course everyone will say crap like that. Its not that its a "rip-off", its just VERY similar to games like Fallout and Borderlands. However I have to agree, it is similar to Borderlands, but it looks about 50 times better.

What people fail to see is that Borderlands isnt a post-epoc game. Its set on the planet Pandora, which is a dry, barren waste planet. Rage is on earth post-epoc

Exactly, so that eliminates it being a Borderlands rip-off (sans the marauding bandits, mutants, and other baddies).

I have a question though? How in the HELL is Rage AT ALL related to Killzone 2? Because a race of people invade Earth? Its not even post-epoc, just war ravaged. Fallout and Rage are post-epoc because it devastated the entire world and new societies were made. Gears 3 ALSO isn't exactly post-epoc. Its another planet that is entirely at war with subterranean aliens. It could be considered post-apocalyptic because Sera IS ravaged and almost totally destroyed.

Like I said in my earlier post--people compare games that aren't released to games that they are familiar with....it's just human nature. When people finally play Rage they will understand. Not only that....people will compare games in the future to Rage and others because they cannot describe games they have not played--get it? Its no big deal...its Id's fault for not releasing the [censored] game already. And they are dumb if they release it along side GOW3--makes me cringe to think that they might push it back to 2012 or some [censored].

No FPS's coming out in July or Aug--hope they take advantage of that.

Funny.
With regards to id I remember when DOOM was 1st released and all FPSs were called "DOOM clones", then they changed to FPS; This just shows who id are.

[img]http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1733/doomclonevsfirstpersons.png[/img]

EDIT: Images don't work here?

The original Borderlands may have been similar, but the one that they spewed out is nothing like RAGE. I have yet to see a stupid little dancing robot in a single RAGE pic or vid, or a gun that is purple.

that makes me very angry, all compared with fallout and borderlands, instead of saying it's a good game and has good graphics and is going to be very promising, I bet that those who say that most children are ignorant and do not have played any game of ID software! Not deserve to be called gamers

i just thought it looked like prettier fallout 3 lol
http://www.gamesas.com/images/games/rage_04B.jpg


http://www.flickr.com/photos/35405044@N04/3328316463/in/photostream/

^ insert chick standing next to machine

LOL, sorry man. I know everyone's coming down on you ITT, but, when you make a statement like above, it's pretty funny. You mean FPS rely on weapons? Get outta here!

People just fail to see that it's hard to make a post-epoc game, without making the world look-a-like other post-epoc game worlds. There is going to be a desert/dead landscape because that's what nukes do to the landscape

Borderlands falls under the Dystopian category to me, maybe a little cyberpunk.

Chernobyl would like to have a word with you.
http://postapocalypticearth.blogspot.com/2010/12/holiday-in-chernobyl-ukraine-to-lift.html

Borderlands is awful. A beast kill stupid grind game, with levels. Luckily I did not pay for it so throwing it away hurt not at all.

I'd like Stalker with a better engine. It would be impossible because North American games are designed to make you feel like a hero. In Russia, the Ukraine, they want you to feel inadequate and pitiful.

Nothing else even comes close to Stalker and I started with Doom. I have over 1000 wads for Doom and Doom2 so I do know a bit about id games.

It does in fact look like Borderlands and has essentially the same story to Fallout, that isn't a problem either, just don't be annoyingly blind OP.