There are some who haven't seen what High King Torygg was supposed to look like. I found him in the game. This is a spoiler of sorts.

http://i.imgur.com/7aPRY.jpg

I was actually excited to find him.

I posted this because there are some who have been to Sovngarde and only seen random soldiers and who didn't participate in any civil war quests before going to Sovngarde. I didn't see anyone other than random soldiers either on my first playthrough since I didn't get involved but this is one person I saw in Sovngarde on my recent playthrough. Hope you guys find it interesting.

Awesome find! I left the feasting hall quickly to kill Alduin, and it wouldn't let me back in afterwards, so I didn't get to explore.

Glad you liked it. I didn't even see him on my first run since I hadn't done any civil war quests yet so I was pleasantly surprised to see him there! I also saw Ulfric and his right hand man there! haha! They had completely changed their demeanor as if their worries in life were petty. I actually liked them in Sovngarde and hated them in Skyrim. The reason I posted this was that this to me was sort of a big deal as I had no idea they even made a character model and gave him a voice actor since they just sort of tell you he died by Ulfric Stormcloak shouting him to death. I am happy they added him in for Lore reasons. I just wish I knew enough about him to add him to the wiki pages :\

I found him in Sovngarde on the first playthrough. I was surprised to find that he definitely wasn't the 'boy' that everyone claims Ulfric murdered. I really wish there was a way to get back to Sovngarde; everything about it is beautiful, especially the sky.

he sounded young to me. I think he was young for being High King.

I.... hmmm. He's spoken of as a "boy". That doesn't look like a boy to me. I would say - mid 30s.... Ah well. I haven't bothered to do anything to get to Sovngarde so that's a nice pic to see - thanks!

Maybe in Skyrim being a man is more than age? Seems to me that many Nords wanted a man with battle experience to rule Skyrim rather than Torygg. That was why Ulfric killed him, to make a point, a statement.

*shrug* Ulfric killed him to show off his own prowess with shouts. Ulfric is a.... hmmm. I don't think I can say that here.

I saw him in Sovengarde. I think if my character could, she probably would have spat on him and stabbed him repeatedly. BTW, yes, yes I do hate the empire and all those in the game who support it.

He looks pretty cool! Thanx for showing us.

i thought it was said, Ulfric challenged him to a fight (similar to a duel, but with different weapons) as is their ancient Nord tradition, because they thought That Torygg was an Imperial Puppet put in place by the Imperials direct influence and Ulfric had the rightful claim to the throne anyway. I guess there are two sides to every story. Gerdur who is Ralof's sister also told me, it was not murder but a lawful challenge that the High King (approved by the Imperials) simply lost. Gerdur also said that Ulfric was the lawful High King and more than implied that as soon as the Nord Council met without the Imperial control he would be instated as High King. I noticed at the beginning Ulfric's mouth was covered with a gag, i later learned because Nords that powerful in the Shouts (including the Greybeards) can even accidently kill u with their voice sometimes. Ulfric killed Torygg by shouting at him, when they had their 'duel' for the throne from what i gathered. Anyway, Ulfric and Torygg both are pretty cool looking IMHO.

I don't think Ulfric did it just to 'show off. But Oh well, both Ulfric (Who many Nords thought was the true High King) and the other High King (that the Imperials helped put in place instead), both made it to Sovngarde in the afterlife, so it must have been considered a fair enough fight to be shouted to death, and in the end an honorable enough death for both or they would not be there. They must have made up and put things in perspective since He and Ulfric were no longer seeming troubled by it, like before.

LOL

Great job at quad posting there

As I understand it, Ulfric simply challenged the High King to make a point: the Empire is nothing to be afraid of, and those who supports them needs to be removed. I like it. Nordic way. Mouth-to-mouth battle. Wonder how come Ulfric didn't just shout the heck out of imperial soldiers who tried to apprehend him? Shouting shouldn't be tiring, and his shout killed him in one blow. Not even Fus Ro Dah can do that

No, wait.. I think I Fus Ro Dah-ed a Forsworn to death just the other day. She drowned in the river though, so maybe that's not really valid.

Ulfric feels he has a claim to the thrown rather than this "puppet" of the empire/thalmor. He did challenge Torygg, as was their custom.. but he did it to prove a point. Ulfric even says in the game that killing Torygg was just to make a point that he was weak.

But Torygg accepted the duel even though he knew he would lose. Who is the bigger coward there I wonder? He faced death with honor.

He kind of looks like ulfric

Pst, Ulfric didn't kill him with a shout.

^ He disarmed him.

I was actually surprised to see that Torygg was a young man. When everyone spoke of him as a boy, I imagined him a child-king. Guess this is just another case of me taking things literally. "Boy" doesn't always mean an actual male child. It's likely he was an advlt, but younger than all the other Jarls out there.

And speaking of his dear wife, why does she almost look like Zelda from 'Twilight Princess'? I always look at her and am reminded of Zelda.

Th'um code forbid people to use shouts for personal gain. That's why some people think that Ulfric committed a wrong and that's why General Caius in the begininng says Ulfric was not supposed to use the power of the voice in that way. Not to mention that using a power like that in a duel could be considered a breach of etiquette. It's like bringing a knife into a fist fight.

16-22 years is a typical 'boy' age anyhow


In Skyrim, you aren't a man till you're either 30+, or pimped up with beard & testosterone

Etiquette wasn't on his mind at all.

Gossip, rumors, and half truths about Ulfric being so divinely blessed in his mission that his voice could tear the flesh from Torygg's bones was what was on his mind.

I meant to use quotes as that is what was rumored amongst the citizens. "He was nearly shouted to pieces" etc. Sorry for the confusion