My thoughts with skyrim

Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:40 pm

First impressions blew me away to say the least. Beautiful and diverse world, wildlife, and the art style was perfect for the setting.
The most fun I had with this game was with the exploring and side quests, I didn't even bother with touching the main story.

The best playing feature I felt was the stealth mechanics... it was far more practical to rely upon than in Oblivion. Granted I still felt that 'dark' environments were still too lightly lit to warrant 'night eye' or torch usage, but oh well.

Right about the time I wanted to join the companions my save file was getting to about 6MB+, which was when I began noticing a lot of the issues with this game (frame rate drops mostly). I relied upon a lot of the promises Bethesda made of the game being fixed, and tried about every temporary fix (switching the system off and on, waiting 30 days, etc) short of implementing the only fix I hear that permanently fixes the problem (replace HDD with faster one or SSD, or throwing the game out the window and into traffic)

Patches came and went, fixed nothing and caused some problems in the process (resistance nullification, dragons flying backwards). If the problem did stem with the transfer rate in the HDD, this won't likely be fixed and become another Oblivion when it's played on the ps3.

I did what many of the other members in the community have tried. Asking to exchange versions for a PC one (that I could play once I managed to get a good PC), but not surprisingly I've gotten the same copy/paste responses of no cross platform exchanges (otherwise they'd actually hold themselves accountable.)

Luckily I managed to get a full refund because of my silver tongue, a dim-witted sales associate, and the fact a response from the tech support WAS to get a refund after I painstakingly depicted every ps3 bug/fault I had and how it was likely unfixable. But lets get right into the nitty-gritty, I don't appreciate paying 60$ to be a beta tester. I know having the game out by that alluring 11.11.11 date was ideal for the company and investors, but it's an insult to the customers who believed this game was properly tested before release (and what about the people without internet connections?!? No salvation for them!). I agree the world of Skyrim is vast and complex, and is impossible to get every little bug in it... but little bugs are workable and slip through the cracks, whereas big game crashing, hard drive failing, lag-festering bugs HAD to have been caught before release. This is evident by their 'day 1' patch, a.k.a. we didn't finish the game but we'll get to it sometime in the near future.

Yes people would balk, but this game should have been delayed. I know Bungie and Polyphony Digital have delayed their games prior, and once released customers were very happy with the finished product. And while Skyrim IS epic and big and vast yadda yadda yadda, that is no excuse. GTA4, Saints Row 2-3, Infamous 1-2, Just Cause 2, and Red Dead Redemption are all games that were released without many problems, located in a wonderfully huge sandbox map to go nuts in. I know skyrim is a tad more complicated, but if it's broken it's broken. A $80,000 Mercedes that won't run past 5-10K miles is still mostly worthless except for the few miles you can get before it overheats and needs to cool down, at that point it's an annoyance and a lemon. Lemons are as far as I know can be held against a company... for games the US consumer seems to be at a disadvantage in that regard.

Consumers who hold a grudge are worse than those who've whined about waiting for a release. You've done your customers a disservice by making them run in circles and wait to actually get a properly working product. For the love of God, please finish your games in the future and release a mostly functioning product, Bethesda is getting a horrible reputation for releasing the gaming version of lemons. If you can't properly release a console game on the ps3, stop bothering.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:52 pm

You gonna have every devoted fans after ya butt now. Anyway, I agree that the game release day should have been pushed forward with a freaking year. Oblivion still beats Skyrim anyday.

''Consumers who hold a grudge are worse than those who've whined about waiting for a release''
So true. I WAS dedicated TES game buyer but not anymore. I'm calling the FBI to check the next TES game and wait for them to debrief me about it untill I buy it xD
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:26 pm

You gonna have every devoted fans after ya butt now. Anyway, I agree that the game release day should have been pushed forward with a freaking year. Oblivion still beats Skyrim anyday.

LOL, probably you forgot about all the broken quests and stuck inventory items (with weight!) in oblivion
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:55 pm

LOL, probably you forgot about all the broken quests and stuck inventory items (with weight!) in oblivion
To be honest I never had that problem in Oblivion. In Skyrim ? Hell yeah...
Broken quests ? Name me some.

LoL I'm gonna sound like a Skyrim hater by now, but whatever..
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:05 pm

To be honest I never had that problem in Oblivion. In Skyrim ? Hell yeah...
Broken quests ? Name me some.

LoL I'm gonna sound like a Skyrim hater by now, but whatever..

you can just go here and have a look http://www.gamesas.com/forum/23-oblivion-hardware-and-software-issues/
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:54 pm

I didn't even bother to look it. The fact why you linked me that was because you couldn't come up with some issues yourself. I honestly do not remember anything that was anyhow game braking in Oblivion. That's >my< expirience, and I invested hell of alot hours into the game.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:44 pm

I didn't even bother to look it. The fact why you linked me that was because you couldn't come up with some issues yourself. I honestly do not remember anything that was anyhow game braking in Oblivion. That's >my< expirience, and I invested hell of alot hours into the game.

uuuhhh wut? u mad because I insulted your beloved oblivion? OMG, I'm so sorry...NOT

also, I have 300+ hours in skyrim with two characters, didn't got a single broken quest yet, that doesn't mean there aren't any, it just depends on what you do and in what order you do it, it can happen in skyrim and it could hapen in oblivion, morrowind, fallout 2 (yep i got stuck items there too), fallout 3 and new vegas, broken quests and stuck inventory items are no news for bethesda games.

I can only say you got lucky in oblivion as I got lucky in skyrim
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:10 pm

uuuhhh wut? u mad because I insulted your beloved oblivion? OMG, I'm so sorry...NOT

This is how far I got untill I stop reading. It seems we have nothing to discuss, good day.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:29 pm

This is how far I got untill I stop reading. It seems we have nothing to discuss, good day.

LOL, so everytime someone wants to put some sense in you, you just run away, how mature



I didn't even bother to look it. The fact why you linked me that was because you couldn't come up with some issues yourself.

this sentence is mature as well, u should read both my previous topic AND the link to the oblivion issues forum, if you really want to know stuff, or you can keep posting your nonsense, your call
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:29 pm

Can you please read the post where I left OUR part of the discussion on this topic. I didn't read the one you forwarded to me compleatley, but I'm pretty sure that sinse your post start off by a personal attack against me....I can't really think that the rest of it can be remotley mature.

I just saw one of the forum users cool forum sign and I'd like to post it here:
''My opinion is not the same as yours. I don't care about your feelings; they are not my responsibility. If you don't like something and you over anolyze it, I don't care. I don't owe you an explanation. Its not because I don't know how to respond, it's because I don't care and feel you don't require an explained answer. Get over yourself.'' - The Tallest

edit: Just to save your time I'm letting you know this: I will not check this topic again. Like I mentioned on my previous post: Good day.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:35 pm

I didn't even bother to look it. The fact why you linked me that was because you couldn't come up with some issues yourself. I honestly do not remember anything that was anyhow game braking in Oblivion. That's >my< expirience, and I invested hell of alot hours into the game.

this sounded like an attack to me actually, you didn't bother to check the link and assumed I couldn't come up with anything, so I just attacked you back.
btw this happened because I don't remember quests names or items names, you know I played like 30 more games in between oblivion and skyrim, I can't remember them all.


edit: Just to save your time I'm letting you know this: I will not check this topic again. Like I mentioned on my previous post: Good day.
sigh...like a baws!


''My opinion is not the same as yours. I don't care about your feelings; they are not my responsibility. If you don't like something and you over anolyze it, I don't care. I don't owe you an explanation. Its not because I don't know how to respond, it's because I don't care and feel you don't require an explained answer. Get over yourself.'' - The Tallest
I quote this too
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:09 am

Can you please read the post where I left OUR part of the discussion on this topic. I didn't read the one you forwarded to me compleatley, but I'm pretty sure that sinse your post start off by a personal attack against me....I can't really think that the rest of it can be remotley mature.

I just saw one of the forum users cool forum sign and I'd like to post it here:
''My opinion is not the same as yours. I don't care about your feelings; they are not my responsibility. If you don't like something and you over anolyze it, I don't care. I don't owe you an explanation. Its not because I don't know how to respond, it's because I don't care and feel you don't require an explained answer. Get over yourself.'' - The Tallest

edit: Just to save your time I'm letting you know this: I will not check this topic again. Like I mentioned on my previous post: Good day.

Yet you obviously care, you have an opinion present it as fact, somebody else offers facts to counter the facts you made up and then you ignore it.

Regardless both Skyrim and Oblivion were broken in many aspects (and before any starts claiming otherwise, so was Morrowind). These things happen in games the size that these games are. Personally I would have prefered a delay to make a better game later on, but that doesn't mean that Skyrim svcks and all previous installments were better.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:56 pm

Yet you obviously care, you have an opinion present it as fact, somebody else offers facts to counter the facts you made up and then you ignore it.

don't tell him !!! he gonna get mad even more !! :P
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