Im a console player. And even though I had logged around 100 hours into Fallout 3 and it was starting to get a little same ol same ol. I still hadnt done everything in it. Hell, when I went to point look out with my lv18 I still had a run for my money.

I traded it in for NV and I'm disappointed. No Random encounters. And well, tbh. it feels like the sandbox game style has been taken away. I feel like I'm on a set course. And the one thing I love about Bethesda's games are the open ended game play. I mean, I've only logged about 20 hours of game play. But its lacking. And I feel like Im on a track.


I think I made a booboo.

Thoughts?

Well, it's an Obsidan game, not a Bethesda game. If you were expecting a wide open world with lots to explore, you won't find it in this game :shrug: The focus is on story and quests on this one.

The first part of the main quest, before getting to the strip, is pretty linear but it expands quite a bit once you get there and there are multiple paths you can take. I've also found plenty to do off the main quest - my second character is level 13 and I haven't much of the main quest at all.

Personally I think trading in Fallout 3 is a bad idea anyway.. I mean the game is still great. I guess it's a little better and more replayable on PC because of mods, but still... I'm feeling the itch to return to DC again after playing New Vegas for a while.

This is true. However, what has returned is a major focus on what the franchise was unknown for before Bethesda picked it up, an RPG. The way I see New Vegas is tt's less a Bethesda game and more an original Fallout game trapped inside Bethesda's game engine. Give it a shot though. Without expecting it to be like FO3, or comparing it to FO3, you might just find that this game is worthy of praise for entirely different reasons - on its own.

You're used to a game and currently playing a game which is similar, yet different. You don't like it because you're not used to it and it's different. Changes are never fun at first, but once the body and mind gets used to it you're gonna love it.

I enjoy it, and the rp capabilities. Im just worried about replay value as well as the ability to squander 60 hours just running around doing the little things.

I expected it to be as large as FO3. And I've disappointed myself. I enjoy the game and all, I mean it IS pretty great. But I have a feeling that within a week I will have beaten it. And be Missing my Goty.

Well there are four main paths to the main quest once you get to the Strip, there is some overlap in what they ask you to do (or at least your options) but they're distinct in their own ways.

With my second character this is one group of quests that I'm repeating but so far I've mostly kept to new quests. There are also two settlements I haven't even been too yet as well as several major locations I haven't seen. The world may not be as large as the one in FO3 but there's still plenty to do and at least for me lots of replay value.

It is slow to start if you're following the main quest but the world will open up


I was trying to finish up the main quest fairly quickly and it still took me 50 hours.

Surprises many negative comment on the FONV.

Well, here is to hoping. Im dog tired, But I want to play. My girlfriend is going to kill me, these all night FO benders are making me sleep all day ._.

No-one's ever getting their dirty mitts on my precious FO3 GOTY

I still don't know if I will feel the same for New Vegas in years to come.....

I agree with Whiskey Rose comment in that it's probably got other features that are worthwhile jumping up and down about and it's worth playing the game over a good period of time to see if, or what aspects of the game works for you (for me story and NPC interaction).

Whereas my enjoyable experiences of multiple FO3 playthroughs have set some standards that other games in future are going to struggle to meet let alone exceed!

I think FO3 has raised the bar.

And I cant wait for NV goty edition. Maybe they will buff it up.

But atm. I need to focus on buying a new FO3 goty ;-;

The thing is, Fallout 3 is more of a Bethesda game rather than a Fallout game. New Vegas, instead, is a lot more like a Fallout game rather than a Bethesda game.

I think people that were expecting a Bethesda game are disappointed, simply because New Vegas focuses on everything except exploration(for the most part).

But Dont get me wrong NV has more weapons, more armor, more enemies, better companion communication....Its just not sandbox is all that disappoints me. But Im only halfheartedly upset about it. I still really like the game, and probably will not trade it in unless its for the goty edition.

FONV is a much better game however it is lacking in the exploration department. But you have to understand that fallout 3 was really lacking content you could do the side quests and main quest in under 40 hours, then they released the DLC and lots of side and unlisted quests and the amount of content increased exponentially. Depending on how much DLC they release for this game there should be alot to do but please understand that Fallout 3 on release was in much worse condition than this game.

As far as graphics go, alot of the new guns were rushed and the 2d renders are pretty horrid im sure someone will retexture them, there is a guy on NV nexus that has already retexed the (22, 9mmpistol, 9mmSMG, Varmint, Single shotgun, Caravan Shotgun). The other remaining issue is the really bad weapon balance. In Fo3 Energy weapons and explosives were the bread and butter of the game. In this game its all about melee/unarmed and Guns. While Fallout 3's balance issues werent so blatantly terrible, this game has some really bad weapon balance.

When you trade in a game they rip you off, so how much did you get toward the NV purchase, $20 at best..... you would of been better off keeping FO3 an getting NV and just shelling out the extra few bucks or trade a different game in.


bigcrazewolf

I haven't found NV being hugely lacking in the exploration department. I've found lots of interesting little things here and there. FO3, vanilla, was larger but seemed less "alive" than NV has so far. Before even getting to the Strip, I was wandering all over the place (lvl 16 when I hit the Lucky 38 this playthrough) so I have a hard time understanding where these complaints of lack of exploration come from..

The only real railroading I've felt so far is if you go too far in some directions it seems to spawn Feral Ghoul Ravagers and Glowing Ones in an effort to turn ya back to the "path" (and I mean a ways off the beaten path..). Also that little bit about the Deathclaws between Goodsprings and NV. Beyond that, though, it's been a go where I want, do whatever I want feel.

Dunno, maybe I had different expectations than a lot of people. I loved Morrowind, Oblivion and FO3 but NV isn't a let-down for me at all. In fact, I like how the game doesn't have a "right" and "wrong" answer for quests anymore, whereas in FO3 it definitely felt like it did.

You did get ripped off trading in FO3 though but not because NV is bad. Simply because FO3 is a fantastic game.

It Made Nv go from 60 bucks to 25.

And I got to take my g/f out to dinner.

I'll pick it up again when I have the cash.

My little bro traded in all his other games for FONV for his 360 version.... and he is regretting it. the 360 version even has issues WTF?

I agree COMPLETELY with the OP.

Just thought I'd throw my hat in the ring.

what kinda hat is it?

You are correct in that it is not a sandbox game. You cannot go anywhere you want or do/take on anything from square one. But that is what I love about it. You have to build yourself up to the point to be able to fully explore the Mojave. And I still think there are tons of things to discover. So many places have some kind of their own little story going on. Sometimes the game will tell you what it was (via NPC's, computer terminals, notes, etc.) but others you have to discern for yourself what happened there or find little neat things they put into the world. For me, the exploratory content is there despite what many are saying to the opposite. I wouldn't trade in my FO3 GOTY at all, but that bing said I haven't even glanced at it since New Vegas was released. I am finding new things every single day in the Mojave and loving every minute of it.

Pre-War Bonnet

Yes, the first portion of the game does kind of railroad you. But once you get to New Vegas, it opens up and becomes a sandbox again. Keep playing.

EDIT: Or, you can just find a Stealth Boy, completely ignore the initial direction the game points you in (bad move, imo - have a little patience), take the road directly north from Goodsprings to Vegas, and if/when you come across the Deathclaws fire up your Stealth Boy and sneak past. Welcome to Vegas - game opens up.

I don't agree with the OP at all.

There, my metal Kabuto entered the ring. :sadvaultboy: