There may be SPOILERS for those who haven't played through the thieves guild questline so please don't read if so.



I got Karliah and Brynjolf to show up at the meeting spot during Trinity Restored! WIN! They enter Nightengale Cave. WIN! I get the armor, and so do Karliah and Brynjolf and then we meet just below the stair case to have our final chat. The part where Brynjolf ask what's the price of becoming a Nightengale, when Karliah speaks to me, I answer and she walks away. I've tried standing in front of her, standing behind her, coaxing her up the stair case and talking to her. I've even pushed her all the way to the chain, and THEN spoken to her. Regardless of what I do she takes a step towards the chain, and then walks out of the cave.

The only time I've gotten her to pull the chain was when I entered the console and typed "placeatme." However, then it bugged where she pulled the chain unendingly?! I tried again with the "placeatme" interrupting her with shout, and by talking, but the gates don't lower. So even when I get her to actually pull the chain I can't get into the room?!

Does ANYONE have any other suggestions? Seriously I'm about to simply delete skyrim off my computer. It's an amazing game, but my first character I deleted due to bugs making some of my quests uncompleted and now this. The game has been out for MONTHS and almost every quest and town I go into I run into bugs that ruin the game. Please help!!! Is there a mod, a code I can replace, anything at all? Thank you in advnace.

Okay, after something playing I finally was able to fix it, kinda. I'll explain below so anyone else who encounters the same problems as me where the basic fixes in the wikia really don't apply/help. This way you also don't miss anything by skipping too far ahead in the questline.

First when Brynjolf and Karliah spoke in the area with all the torches, I ran to the chain. I let them have their conversation. Then I entered the console. I typed "Prid 00058F1A" I hit return. Then I typed in moveto player. I exited the console and it jumped Karliah to me standing at the chain. She asked her questions, and then moved to the chain and pulled it. To stop her from doing the "Multiple Pull" bug I spoke to her immediately after she pulled the chain once. This lowered the gate, but she still bugged out and left, but the gate was finally lowered.

My next issue was that Karliah left the cave instead of going to her spot, and Brynjolf wouldn't move into the cavern area to take his place either. With neither of them in their spots I couldn't completed the next part to enable the cut scene. I tried moving both him and Karliah to their spots manually using the "moveto", but when I moved them they would immediately leave the pedestal and move away. Finally I found the code to enable the cut scene. So I summoned bothed Karliah and Brynjolf into the room with me, (Same code as above for Karliah Brynjolf's code is 00020545) then when they were right next to me I typed in "setstage TG08A 55) That completed the mission part for me to stand on the step and forced the NPCs to take their spots in order to start the cutscene.

Hope this helps anyone else having issues. Big pain in the butt I know, but at least you can manage around it.