Update: Community Patch

Post » Fri May 20, 2011 1:58 am

The community patch at Fallout New Vegas Nexus has been pulled. This patch was a ongoing effort by community modders to fix many of the game issues ( Mostly scripting issues and texture bugs ) that have not been officially fixed yet.

Here is Fallout Nexus's pleasent reply for pulling the patch:

" This file is currently under review by a moderator and is not open for public access. Please do not contact the staff or the owner of the file regarding this issue or you might be penalised by the staff of the site. "


You get that ? - " do not contact the staff or the owner of the file regarding this issue or you might be penalised ".


Wonderful Explanation ! Way to go fallout New Vegas Nexus ! Go team go ! :intergalactic:
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 8:25 pm

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1134249-relz-community-bug-fix-compilation-patch/
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 1:12 am

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1134249-relz-community-bug-fix-compilation-patch/



As I said, " The patch has been pulled ". As in, you can not get it at Fallout New Vegas Nexus any more...
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 4:51 am

As I said, " The patch has been pulled ". As in, you can not get it at Fallout New Vegas Nexus any more...


It really says something about the polish of a game when the community is driven to fix all of the problems...
Hang your collective heads in shame Bethesda and Obsidian.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 7:00 am

As I said, " The patch has been pulled ". As in, you can not get it at Fallout New Vegas Nexus any more...

Things are explained there. The patch was set hidden for now because the person who made it took the separate fixes that other people made and put them together, but without asking for permission for using all of them. Posting a thread about it here completely out of context is doing nobody any good.

It's a rule on Nexus, since there been quite a few moments where people ported other people's mods from FO3 to New Vegas without crediting the authors, and other situations where people copied other people's work, which is not right, even if the idea was good.

With that said he did try to ask people for permission so I'd say there's a good chance that the mod is put back online after things are sorted out.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 4:32 am

It's a rule on Nexus, since there been quite a few moments where people ported other people's mods from FO3 to New Vegas without crediting the authors, and other situations where people copied other people's work, which is not right, even if the idea was good.


You have no rights of ownership to anything you create and release using the GECK. It is good etiquette to at least give credit in cases where you are modding/collecting others mods but they have no rights regarding their use and redistribution in this case so it is very silly to pull such a convenient package.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 12:27 am

I'm sure Bethesda and Obsidian are indeed hanging their heads....while counting the money in their wallets.

If autos get a recall at the manufacturer's expense, why not video games?

I just cannot believe that they had no idea about these problems, unless they just didn't test so they could launch the product by Thanksgiving (AKA holiday shopping time). This is just too reckless and uncaring to believe.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 11:34 pm

If autos get a recall at the manufacturer's expense, why not video games?


The obvious answer to this is that defective video games can not become metal coffins while defective cars can.

The less obvious answer is that an auto recall is the equivalent of a video game patch. Recalled automobiles are not returned for refund or recollected by the manufacturer. A recall notice is simply a publicized general notice that the car should be brought in for a free and very important repair due to manufacturing or design errors. Similarly, when a video game is patched it is being repaired at the manufacturers expense. They're the same thing really, the word "recall" is simply not what you might believe it to be. It's just the auto-industry's word for "critical update."
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 9:27 pm

The obvious answer to this is that defective video games can not become metal coffins while defective cars can.

The less obvious answer is that an auto recall is the equivalent of a video game patch. Recalled automobiles are not returned for refund or recollected by the manufacturer. A recall notice is simply a publicized general notice that the car should be brought in for a free and very important repair due to manufacturing or design errors. Similarly, when a video game is patched it is being repaired at the manufacturers expense. They're the same thing really, the word "recall" is simply not what you might believe it to be. It's just the auto-industry's word for "critical update."


Well, I know all that, who doesn't. But auto makers don't intentionally release lemons. Bethesda sure did. Relatively, we should be compensated.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 10:25 am

Well, I know all that, who doesn't. But auto makers don't intentionally release lemons. Bethesda sure did. Relatively, we should be compensated.

Perhaps they should be required to include a public message in the current televison commercial about the need to download a patch to make the game playable?

Public humilation might prevent future releases like this one.

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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 3:04 am

I'm sure Bethesda and Obsidian are indeed hanging their heads....while counting the money in their wallets.

If autos get a recall at the manufacturer's expense, why not video games?

I just cannot believe that they had no idea about these problems, unless they just didn't test so they could launch the product by Thanksgiving (AKA holiday shopping time). This is just too reckless and uncaring to believe.



your post above is the reason we need a "thanks" button on here!
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 11:03 am

Fallout Nexus always does this, I made a radio station mod and it was pulled off because they claimed it was copyrighted....well duh I cant produce music, and besides I had my own content on there such as radio sound bites and announcements that I made, yet conelrad radio has a copy righted name and the songs are from other artists lol anyways yea thats their rule. If they even suspect you have copyrighted stuff, they will delete it.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 10:48 pm

Well, I know all that, who doesn't. But auto makers don't intentionally release lemons. Bethesda sure did. Relatively, we should be compensated.


Actually, they do. There are documented examples of car manufacturers determining that the cost of fixing life-threatening defects in a product line would be more expensive than projected settlements for wrongful death lawsuits. Some of these were actually exposed by Ralph Nader- that's what he did before he decided politics would be a genius career choice.

Again, you can not sanely compare the severity of the two situations. While the games and auto industries respond similarly you are making a poor argument if you are trying to suggest a relationship between the responsibility that a company has for releasing a product with faulty brakes to a company that releases software with bugs.

If you are suggesting that you believe the buggyness of New Vegas somehow imperils your life then I would suggest you may have larger and more personal problems than a buggy game.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 11:57 pm

Actually, they do. There are documented examples of car manufacturers determining that the cost of fixing life-threatening defects in a product line would be more expensive than projected settlements for wrongful death lawsuits. Some of these were actually exposed by Ralph Nader- that's what he did before he decided politics would be a genius career choice.

Again, you can not sanely compare the severity of the two situations. While the games and auto industries respond similarly you are making a poor argument if you are trying to suggest a relationship between the responsibility that a company has for releasing a product with faulty brakes to a company that releases software with bugs.

If you are suggesting that you believe the buggyness of New Vegas somehow imperils your life then I would suggest you may have larger and more personal problems than a buggy game.


Of course I'm not implying that. If it only threatens your life you will get upset? LOL, welcome to advlt life. This affects our TRUST in a provider. My example was merely an anology,a comparison, a reason and justification for anyone who sells us a product as "perfect and worthy for sale" to make good when their product is knowingly inferior...especially when they had prior knowledge. Why on earth defend a crooked and deceptive company and attack my example? You must be a Democrat. :)
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 1:39 pm

Fallout Nexus always does this, I made a radio station mod and it was pulled off because they claimed it was copyrighted....well duh I cant produce music, and besides I had my own content on there such as radio sound bites and announcements that I made, yet conelrad radio has a copy righted name and the songs are from other artists lol anyways yea thats their rule. If they even suspect you have copyrighted stuff, they will delete it.

Conelrad is public domain because it's government, and the songs are public domain because the copyrights have expired.

As for the community patch, his problem is in relation to not getting permission from all of the people who did fixes. The rules are pretty simple. Besides if you have that much of a problem, start your own site. But if it has the same protection of work that the planet series of sites has, or informer sites I'd never post one of my mods there. I had enough of my stuff stolen when I was doing morrowind mods and being 'kind' and posting it on 2-3 sites.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 4:18 am

Of course I'm not implying that. If it only threatens your life you will get upset? LOL, welcome to advlt life. This affects our TRUST in a provider. My example was merely an anology,a comparison, a reason and justification for anyone who sells us a product as "perfect and worthy for sale" to make good when their product is knowingly inferior...especially when they had prior knowledge. Why on earth defend a crooked and deceptive company and attack my example? You must be a Democrat. :)


Defending coorperate practices is a democratic position eh? Odd.

The idea that any product is implied to be perfect if it is deemed worthy of sale by the manufacturer has long been acknowledged by courts and companies alike to be incorrect. Everything that is produced in quantity and not explicitly warrantied against any and all defect is expected to have some rate of imperfection. In the case of manufactured goods, the manufacturer's responsibility is generally accepted to be replacement or repair within an acknowledged time limit after sale. In the case of food products things are even more unpleasant for the consumer. While a patently inedible or harmful product may be expected to be refunded or replaced, "defective" products are explicitly allowed by the FDA as long as they are not defective beyond a specified amount. To clarify, it is considered acceptable for there to be a certain amount of insect parts, rat feces, and other contaminants in all of your food.

With software products the practice is that a manufacturer is expected to repair defects through patches but is rarely expected to accept returns as there are practical difficulties in returning a non-physical item- since you are actually being sold rights to use a product and anything physical your received is not considered to have any real redeemable value.

Once again though, your request is somewhat moot. Patching a defective product is already the anolog to an automobile recall. If that is not what you want, then you are not asking for a recall but a refund. These are different things.

If you are expecting the equivalent of the public announcement that accompanies a car recall then I'm not entirely sure what you are really expecting. The game patches automatically on all platforms and they have announced their awareness of issues as well as their intent to patch them. This serves the same practical purpose as the public announcement over car recalls- which are usually handled by the media echoing a simple press release rather than done at any real expense to the manufacturer. If this is your complaint then you should be asking video game review and news sites to write editorials on the subject. Even better, you could probably write an op-ed yourself. If you are half as eloquent in such an article as you are here you will probably get it published.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 11:30 am

Take this to The Nexus please. You can also comment about the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1134249-relz-community-bug-fix-compilation-patch/
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