1.8 UpdateSolstheim DLC discussion Thread - #34 : V

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:34 am

Mardoxx, on 01 November 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?app=forums&module=forums§ion=findpost&pid=21726905
The next DLC will be called Dragonborn and it will be set on the island of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Solstheim.
The main locations you will be able to visit are http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Raven_Rock, Miraak Temple, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Castle_Karstaag and a Telvanni tower (N.B.: Not the Telvanni Tower seen in Morrowind in Vivec, but http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Tel_Uvirith).
There will be some new armor types, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Bonemold, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Chitin, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Nordic and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Raw_Stalhrim each having heavy and light classifications.
Out of these new materials, you will be able to craft new types items out of two of them, namely Stalhrim and Nordic.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Spears will be added along with an array of new creatures/automotons, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Riekling#Riekling, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Scrib#Scrib, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Netch#Netch, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Boar#Boar, Benthic Lurker, Ballista Centurion, and something with an internal name ofHMDaedra, quite possibly referring to http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Hermaeus_Mora since it lists his plane of oblivion, Apocrypha. You will also be able to ride dragons and be in combat while mounted on one.

http://i.imgur.com/gF1hJ.png is what the quest header for Dragonborn Quests will look like, and http://i.imgur.com/AJu91.png is what the compass markers look like for the new locations.
From the top, clockwise: Telvanni Tower, To Solstheim, Raven Rock, Castle Karstaag, Standing Stones, To Skyrim, Miraak Temple.

There will be at least two new tracked stats: Dragonborn Quests Completed, and Stalhrim Items Crafted

You will travel to Solstheim via a boat, much like you did in Bloodmoon, although this time, it looks like you may at least get a partial visual boat ride.
The Telvanni tower has float up and down animations, so no levitation it seems.
Dragon riding will take place in its own world space

Mounted combat looks like it's getting an improvement with the ability to cast spells while mounted, tihs isn't necessarily a Dragonborn only thing though!

It appears that Update 1.8 readies Skyrim for PS3 DLC.

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Misinformation:
Weapon degrading -- There's nothing to indicate this is added, that isn't to say it can't/won't be added however. There was just no "new" information in this update. The degradation stuff seen previously has all been renemants from previous CK games (Fallout)
H2H stuff, That was my diff program messing up, sorry :smile:

Release dates -- No one but Bethesda knows!
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420204-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-28/page__view__findpost__p__21726754 (unless someone can back this up?)

Other stuff that I can't put my finger on or give intelligent guesses about because of lack of information
Miraak death animation, Chieftain animations, Chisel animations (perhaps new crafting station for the new armor.. doubt it though), Storn Death Reaction animation & Storn Suit Stages, Frea, Pray, StonePickUp, KillMoveDLC02RipHeartOut, TreeAmbush
There also seem to be a lot more animation files for running with weapons. No idea why.
Dwarven Ballista -- Possibly a new trap? http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dwemer_Ballista#Dwemer_Ballista

Previous Threads
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417092-hints-found-about-the-next-dlc-found-in-18-beta/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417136-18-beta-update-and-dragonborn-dlc-hints-discussion/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417175-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417237-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hintsagain/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417280-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417375-18-beta-update-new-dlc-discussion/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417315-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417456-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-10/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417500-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-11/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417552-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-12/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417570-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-13/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417620-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-14/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417703-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-15/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417802-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-16/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417929-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-17/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418010-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-18/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418096-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-thread-19/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418331-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-20/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418474-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-21/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418670-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-22/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418874-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-23/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419074-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-24/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419436-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-25/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419724-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-26/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419844-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-27, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420204-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-28, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420420-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-29/

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All of the above is speculation over new strings found in the files from the 1.8 update, and should not be treated as facts or as any proof that any of it will even make it into the game! (but you all already knew that, didn't you!... Didn't you?) They were found by comparing 1.7.7.0 files with those in 1.8.145.0. The update to the Beta (i.e. 1.8.151.0) gave no new information, this is also the same as the release version 1.8.

You want proof, look at http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/page__view__findpost__p__21660925 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/page__view__findpost__p__21660876 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417175-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/page__view__findpost__p__21656816 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/page__view__findpost__p__21653361
Or look through my previous posts http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&andor_type=and&sid=dc5763cc2fa8668a67e4ba28567b4374&search_author=Mardoxx&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_content=both&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5Bforums%5D%5B%5D=118&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BnoPreview%5D=0&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpCount%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpViews%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortDir%5D=0&search_term=&search_app=forums&st=0

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Spoiler

The next DLC will be called Dragonborn and it will be set on the island of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Solstheim.
The main locations you will be able to visit are http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Raven_Rock, Miraak Temple, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Castle_Karstaag and a Telvanni tower (N.B.: Not the Telvanni Tower seen in Morrowind in Vivec, but http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Tel_Uvirith).
There will be some new armor types, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Bonemold, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Chitin, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Nordic and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Raw_Stalhrim each having heavy and light classifications.
Out of these new materials, you will be able to craft new types items out of two of them, namely Stalhrim and Nordic.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Spears will be added along with an array of new creatures/automotons, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Riekling#Riekling, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Scrib#Scrib, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Netch#Netch, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Boar#Boar, Benthic Lurker, Ballista Centurion, and something with an internal name ofHMDaedra, quite possibly referring to http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Hermaeus_Mora since it lists his plane of oblivion, Apocrypha. You will also be able to ride dragons and be in combat while mounted on one.

http://i.imgur.com/gF1hJ.png is what the quest header for Dragonborn Quests will look like, and http://i.imgur.com/AJu91.png is what the compass markers look like for the new locations.
From the top, clockwise: Telvanni Tower, To Solstheim, Raven Rock, Castle Karstaag, Standing Stones, To Skyrim, Miraak Temple.

There will be at least two new tracked stats: Dragonborn Quests Completed, and Stalhrim Items Crafted

You will travel to Solstheim via a boat, much like you did in Bloodmoon, although this time, it looks like you may at least get a partial visual boat ride.
The Telvanni tower has float up and down animations, so no levitation it seems.
Dragon riding will take place in its own world space

Mounted combat looks like it's getting an improvement with the ability to cast spells while mounted, tihs isn't necessarily a Dragonborn only thing though!

It appears that Update 1.8 readies Skyrim for PS3 DLC.

---

Misinformation:
Weapon degrading -- There's nothing to indicate this is added, that isn't to say it can't/won't be added however. There was just no "new" information in this update. The degradation stuff seen previously has all been renemants from previous CK games (Fallout)
H2H stuff, That was my diff program messing up, sorry :smile:

Release dates -- No one but Bethesda knows!
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420204-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-28/page__view__findpost__p__21726754 (unless someone can back this up?)

Other stuff that I can't put my finger on or give intelligent guesses about because of lack of information
Miraak death animation, Chieftain animations, Chisel animations (perhaps new crafting station for the new armor.. doubt it though), Storn Death Reaction animation & Storn Suit Stages, Frea, Pray, StonePickUp, KillMoveDLC02RipHeartOut, TreeAmbush
There also seem to be a lot more animation files for running with weapons. No idea why.
Dwarven Ballista -- Possibly a new trap? http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dwemer_Ballista#Dwemer_Ballista

Previous Threads
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417092-hints-found-about-the-next-dlc-found-in-18-beta/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417136-18-beta-update-and-dragonborn-dlc-hints-discussion/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417175-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417237-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hintsagain/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417280-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417375-18-beta-update-new-dlc-discussion/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417315-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417456-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-10/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417500-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-11/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417552-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-12/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417570-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-13/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417620-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-14/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417703-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-15/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417802-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-16/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417929-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-17/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418010-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-18/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418096-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-thread-19/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418331-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-20/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418474-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-21/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418670-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-22/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418874-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-23/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419074-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-24/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419436-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-25/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419724-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-26/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419844-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-27, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420204-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-28, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420420-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-29/

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All of the above is speculation over new strings found in the files from the 1.8 update, and should not be treated as facts or as any proof that any of it will even make it into the game! (but you all already knew that, didn't you!... Didn't you?) They were found by comparing 1.7.7.0 files with those in 1.8.145.0. The update to the Beta (i.e. 1.8.151.0) gave no new information, this is also the same as the release version 1.8.

You want proof, look at http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/page__view__findpost__p__21660925 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/page__view__findpost__p__21660876 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417175-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/page__view__findpost__p__21656816 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/page__view__findpost__p__21653361
Or look through my previous posts http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&andor_type=and&sid=dc5763cc2fa8668a67e4ba28567b4374&search_author=Mardoxx&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_content=both&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5Bforums%5D%5B%5D=118&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BnoPreview%5D=0&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpCount%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpViews%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortDir%5D=0&search_term=&search_app=forums&st=0

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» Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:15 pm

Hm. I wonder if we will get some more awesome stuff in this DLC or not.

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:52 am

Lets find out on Monday

Hopefully PS3 will get something.

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:04 pm

From the old thread:

Besides Azura and those who can read the Elder Scrolls that is.
But I think Vivec would be able to make good predictions. No matter his reasons, he did care for his people enough to think about it.

You got me wrong... I think.
I was talking about his divine mind, because I wanted to point out that Vivec could indeed know very well how the Red Year (if he did cause it intentionally) would affect Morrowind positively after all.

Yep. I am sure Azura debt has been payed if nothing else. Maybe thats what Vivec wanted... he did say he wanted to restore the old worship after all.

Then there is "The Trial of Vivec", but that's another story. :biggrin:

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:15 pm

I wonder how awkward dragon riding will be with one wearing dragon armor... :blink:

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:39 pm

I wonder how awkward dragon riding will be with one wearing dragon armor... :blink:

I was thinking about that not too long ago. I'd imagine it's kind of like Buffallo Bill using you as his trusty steed.

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:04 pm

Just a thought. Miraak is a Falmer!! An intelligent falmer.

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:30 am

Just a thought. Miraak is a Falmer!! An intelligent falmer.

Like a snow elf ?.....

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:21 pm

Sort of a hybrid? He's physically similar to how Falmer are now but intellectually above any of his kind . That's why HM made him his high priest? Similar to D. Fyr have Yagram in morrowind maybe he discovered "Miraak" and a way to HM realm. Just my thoughts and ideas

Sorry with poorly written, quick posts.

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:35 pm

Sort of a hybrid? He's physically similar to how Falmer are now but intellectually above any of his kind . That's why HM made him his high priest? Similar to D. Fyr have Yagram in morrowind maybe he discovered "Miraak" and a way to HM realm. Just my thoughts and ideas

You haven't played Dawnguard, have you?

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:06 pm

Very well written article, even if all of this information has a chance to be entirely wrong. I do believe it to be true, as Bethesda has shown time and time again that they love giving us just enough in the console codes to keep our mouths watering. It has been years since I have played Morrowind. No game has ever given me a sense of nostalgia quite like that game did. Having a piece of Morrowind (in this case, Solstheim) in Skyrim may just overwhelm me.

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:10 pm

Like a snow elf ?.....

Snow Elves are Falmer. It's the same term in a different language.

Spoiler

Gelebor only wants to be called Snow Elf because the Betrayed are commonly called Falmer and he does not want to be called the same.
Falmer is indeed the original word from their own tongue to describe themselves.

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:47 am

You haven't played Dawnguard, have you?

I have through both sides. I'd bet Miraak won't be 1 of the playable races. He'd have to be special to be HM high priest

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:54 am

all i can say if they are what i think they are im not looking forward to ballista centurions im imagining an active one of http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2032/walkingballista.jpg by the way. not gonna be fun dodging one of those monsters.

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:13 am

all i can say if they are what i think they are im not looking forward to ballista centurions im imagining an active one of http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2032/walkingballista.jpg by the way. not gonna be fun dodging one of those monsters.

Just think if that thing hit you. I mean, there's no reloading, but wow. Stapled to the wall!

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:03 pm

I have through both sides. I'd bet Miraak won't be 1 of the playable races. He'd have to be special to be HM high priest

That isn't necessarily true...but there is a chance of him being a Snow Elf simply because they had so much influence on the island.

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:30 pm

all i can say if they are what i think they are im not looking forward to ballista centurions im imagining an active one of http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2032/walkingballista.jpg by the way. not gonna be fun dodging one of those monsters.

I was thinking about a Centurion robot of some kind will be riding one of those so it can be reloaded, and such... A hit from one of those will **** people up so easily... I hope we get to see one of these spawning in Blackreach just to see the Falmer get destroyed XD

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:35 pm

I was thinking about a Centurion robot of some kind will be riding one of those so it can be reloaded, and such... A hit from one of those will **** people up so easily... I hope we get to see one of these spawning in Blackreach just to see the Falmer get destroyed XD

Forget dragons, I want to ride that!

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:55 pm

I feel a bit hollow reading this, as the trailer really won't be as huge of a surprise anymore

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:52 pm

That isn't necessarily true...but there is a chance of him being a Snow Elf simply because they had so much influence on the island.

This is why I think he'll be Falmer. Don't know why but with Falmer helmets and the DP mask looking similar I think that he was bestowed the helmet as a gift for his achievements.

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:10 am

This is why I think he'll be Falmer. Don't know why but with Falmer helmets and the DP mask looking similar I think that he was bestowed the helmet as a gift for his achievements.

Maybe he is also Dragonborn, and will be the final boss, acting under Herma-Mora's orders?

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:08 pm

I have always wanted to wear the dragon priest armour that they wear. It looks really cool. Fingers crossed. XD

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:07 pm

Maybe a poll could be added to this topic on what people think the guy in the taser pic (I guess we're assuming he's Miraak) is; an option for dragon priest, an option for high priest of Hermaeus Mora, an option for falmer, one for a combination for two of these or all three, and one for thinking he's something else entirely. (I'm still sticking with the theory that he's high priest of Herma - Mora)

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:42 am

Maybe he is also Dragonborn, and will be the final boss, acting under Herma-Mora's orders?

I hope it's not that simple. I really hope you can actually make desicions that matter and its not a linear quest line. It would be great to befriend a fellow Dragonborn

» Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:46 pm

I really hope you can actually make desicions that matter and its not a linear quest line.

This.
Skyrim is in desperate need of meaningful decisions.