Vampirism, WTH!

Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:03 pm

I lost a entire character because of vampirism.

I did'nt realise that it was a stupid way of doing vampirism and did'nt know she was one till she was on the 3rd stage.

Couldnt get to Morthal before she got to stage 4. Tried a earlier save. Still at stage 3. Could'nt get the quest done in time. Could'nt have got back in without getting to stage 4. Game ruined. Character lost. No way in hell I'm pissing about with all that stealth just to feed on people and then trade.
Stealth is something I do if I have to and not any other time! It is annoying and charging in head on is way more fun.

That is the stupidest way to do vampires ever!

I heard about it from oblivion, but you have to see the sheer stupidity and overdone things against you as a vampire when you play Skyrim.

FFS!

The only thing against werewolves is they don't get rested bonus. That's it. Nothing else.
Why not the same with vampires?

Being a vampire should be fun! Vampires are awesome!
Instead you've got to be some kind of stealth obbsessed superninja to feed and get into towmns without dying!

Why the hell could'nt it just be a aversion to sunlight and being better at night?! You don't need all the rest of the crap!
It's overdone!
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:05 am

I like the vampires in skyrim much better then oblivion personally. The only thing I would of wanted to complete the package would be some sort of illusion spell that allowed you to pass for human a short time so you wouldn't have to feed on someone to drop your level. I'd rather just be a level 4 with the power to sway the mortals with my gaze. Other then that, I like how it is.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:08 am

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1334745-big-boost-to-vampires-necromage/

^ If you didn't know how strong vampires are.

How the hell can you not realise your a vampire though, the screen goes red and 'you have progressed to stage one vampirism' comes up.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:12 pm

I have never bothered to become a vampire myself- but wouldn't a build that uses invisibility repeat casts and has high sneak not suffer from this? A build that could keep invisibility recast and up until fed, and then forget about it?

I think I will make myself a vampire-

Edit- just read bobjims link there, yeah... vampire all the way for a classic DnD assassin.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:18 pm

Being a vampire should be fun! Vampires are awesome!
Vampires are not awesome. They are heinous undead creatures that feed on the living. Shows like True Blood and movies like the Twilight series have taken way too much "creative license" and poisoned the minds of the younger generation. They are not cool, they are not sixy, they are not nice, and they don't drive Volvos. Vampirism is not some disease than can be conveniently be cured when you get tired of it - it is an eternal state that grants immortality as long as you feed on victims on a regular basis.

The flaming will now commence. <_<

All that being said: at least you don't have to kill your victims to feed (as I understand it). The vampirism in this game is done a certain way and you have to follow it's rules if you want to be a Vampire. It's more like an iron deficiecny than any 'true' vampirism.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:52 am

So instead of curing your vampirism you abandoned your character? Lol funniest thread ever
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:25 pm

yeah, to hell with glamorous Twilight Brat Pitt vampires. What the hell, really. Vampires are evil and kill people. And people usually do not like being killed.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:55 am

I like the vampires in skyrim much better then oblivion personally. The only thing I would of wanted to complete the package would be some sort of illusion spell that allowed you to pass for human a short time so you wouldn't have to feed on someone to drop your level. I'd rather just be a level 4 with the power to sway the mortals with my gaze. Other then that, I like how it is.

Become a master of illusion and calm everyone you come across.. there is also that mass calm spell (forgot what its called.. I focused on Conjuration for Thralls) that would let you be a lvl 4 with virtually no consequences.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:36 am

Why the hell could'nt it just be a aversion to sunlight and being better at night?! You don't need all the rest of the crap!
It's overdone!
By all the rest of that crap I assume you mean a little thing like "drinking blood"?

You do remember that "drinking blood" (Or at least a person's life essence) is the single defining feature of of vampires in all myths and cultures?


How about werewolves that get really edgy and angry once a month but don't do all that turning-into-a-wolf crap? (Wait, that's basiclly half the human race ;p)
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:54 pm

I'm playing my first Skyrim vampire now, and I love it.

Not only isn't the face as ugly as they used to be in Oblivion, but also they aren't for people who refuse to sneak for half a minute to feed their character back down to stage 1 to do the cure quest.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:51 am

I've noticed that you don't get any warning about having the joke vampire disease until it's too late.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:33 am

How about werewolves that get really edgy and angry once a month but don't do all that turning-into-a-wolf crap? (Wait, that's basiclly half the human race ;p)
I thought the cycle was like every 28 days - not a true month...moon cycle...I mean moon cycle. :P :lol: :nono:
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:47 am

Become a master of illusion and calm everyone you come across.. there is also that mass calm spell (forgot what its called.. I focused on Conjuration for Thralls) that would let you be a lvl 4 with virtually no consequences.

Bah! Im so dense I didn't even think of that lol Thanks for the tip, I think im gonna attempt that vamp tonight now. Woot woot! :banana:
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:46 am

:blink: Why didn't you just cure yourself? Or did I miss something?

Anyway,

Vampires are not awesome. They are heinous undead creatures that feed on the living. They are not cool, they are not sixy, they are not nice, and they don't drive Volvos. Vampirism is not some disease than can be conveniently be cured when you get tired of it - it is an eternal state that grants immortality as long as you feed on victims on a regular basis.
I wholeheartedly agree. Vampirism is a curse, not a blessing. You're stronger under certain circumstances (Necromage perk), but there's a very high price to pay. You're lost to the society. It's always been this way, at least before Twilight and the rest of this crap... People don't understand what being a vampire means anymore :/
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:09 pm

People don't understand what being a vampire means anymore :/
If they read up on the lore behind vampirism, they would understand. They would also see that the vampirism in Skyrim, flies in the face of TES lore.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:59 am

Not sure how you missed the multiple warnings and stage progressions. Maybe you have an SDTV like me and half the damn text is unreadable? In any case, if you've save overwritten yourself into a corner so to speak, I suppose how you did it is kind of irrelevant.

As for undoing it, that is fairly simple. You don't need to abandon the playthrough. Hell I don't think you even necessarily have to sneak up to a sleeping person to feed. You just need one who isn't surrounded by many people that aren't sleeping. One of the smartest easy feed solutions I seen suggested is command a follower to bed down at any remote bedding (dungeon bound hay pile, etc) and then feed on them. I never considered that as I never use followers.

Barring that, head to any remote farm or Anise's cabin. Go into the place late at night when people will be asleep and the only issue you might run into is those few who have dogs. If you're in the Dark Brotherhood, they don't care a bit if you're stage 4. This makes everyone in the sanctuary a potential snack if you wait for them to lay down (except of course, ironically enough, the little girl vampire Babette cause you can't feed on children like a Telboth).

Point is, it's fairly easy to feed even with no stealth skill or invisibility potions. Do it, get back to stage 1, then go to the guy who does the cure quest for you. His name is Falion, he lives in Morthal, and the only thing that actually could be hard to do is getting a filled black soul gem that he requires for it. He himself offers one for sale in a dialogue option for about 300 gold, after which, it's up to you to find a soul trap weapon, scroll or learn the spell and go gank a bandit to fill it.

I became one on purpose because it's the only way to play (long before the Necromage perk discovery) and was quite upset at having to cure it due to a glitch in the Dark Brotherhood quest to kill the final contracted target of that line. The page in the wiki describing bugs stated some elaborate combination of having a thieve's guild quest bug and being a vampire, but I've never advanced in that quest line near that far. So far as I can tell, the cook who won't continue speaking to you does so simply because of vampire status. When I cured it, she did what she was supposed to do. I intend to recontract it again now. Wish I could just order Babette to infect me again, I am the listener after all.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:52 am

It was my second playthrough. Never played Oblivion.

And I tried curing her. But even with the save were i could get to morthal, I could'nt get back without it getting to lvl 4. And her sneaking was not going to work, at all. There was no sneaking into houses for her.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:59 am

And I tried curing her. But even with the save were i could get to morthal, I could'nt get back without it getting to lvl 4. And her sneaking was not going to work, at all. There was no sneaking into houses for her.
Can you feed on Bandits or Forsworn near a city? :confused:
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:15 am

By all the rest of that crap I assume you mean a little thing like "drinking blood"?

You do remember that "drinking blood" (Or at least a person's life essence) is the single defining feature of of vampires in all myths and cultures?


How about werewolves that get really edgy and angry once a month but don't do all that turning-into-a-wolf crap? (Wait, that's basiclly half the human race ;p)

I meant the people trying to kill you part. Obviously you drink blood. But not to the ridiculous ammount of sneaking you need to do it! If they just made it, drink blood if you want, ok. But it's a ridiculously high thing were you have to be some kind of ninja or you get attacked at lvl 4.
And why the hell can't you drain waking people by overpowering or hynotizing them? How about snekaing up on them and hypnotizing them. Why just sleeping peeople? That's silly. And Illogical.

There's no reason why people would try to kill you! Your just walking round the place, You're not carving people up in the streets! And how the hell would anyone know whatever you are. And why the hell would it matter.
The rubbish is the stupid ammount of things against vampires, when all werewolves have is no rested bonus and a don't change in front of people not the Companions. Werwolves have nothing else against them.
What the hell the levels about anyway?! Why not just go, you are a vampire, your weaker in the sun and you are stronger at night and have powers. No levels, no attacking. Theres enough of a change to make it a actual choice, but not so much it spoils it.
They don't attack werewolves walking round!
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:43 am

Can you feed on Bandits or Forsworn near a city? :confused:

They don't sleep. Ever. Theres always some awake. You'd have to be some kind of stealth obbsessed ninja to get past bandits. And it's only when they're asleep you can feed.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:28 am

There's isolated towns and sleeping people everywhere. Ive cleared out dungeons of sleeping bandits...the only hard part about curing is the quest involved, and even then...


EDIT: come to think of it it might of been a fort they were sleeping in, im sure if there are beds in any dungeon or fort they are there for a reason.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:53 pm

I lost a entire character because of vampirism.

I did'nt realise that it was a stupid way of doing vampirism and did'nt know she was one till she was on the 3rd stage.

Couldnt get to Morthal before she got to stage 4. …

I'll let everybody else extol the virtues of vampires. (I like playing one too!) Just in case you didn't catch it from the other comments here, though, your character is NOT lost. It's very, very easy to feed when you're at stage 4 vampirism, even if you're not a sneaky character:
  • Wait until after midnight.
  • Go near someplace that has people sleeping outdoors, like a Stormcloak or Imperial camp, or even a random bandit camp. Don't get so close that people can see you yet, though.
  • In the Magic menu, go to Powers, and choose Embrace of Shadows. This will make you invisible and give you night vision for an absurdly long time. When you are invisible, sneaking is super easy, as long as you don't bump into anybody physically.
  • Sneak up to a sleeping soldier and feed.
  • Go get cured in Morthal!
It's really nice that stage 4 vampirism gives you a power that makes it a snap to cure stage 4 vampirism. I've also used it to sneak into Jarls' longhouses and guard barracks, but the tricky thing there is that if there's anyone awake inside, they will see you after you use the door. (Using doors dispels invisibility.)
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:01 pm

Here's how you feed as a vampire, have a follower and tell them to sleep in a bed and react quickly you can feed on them.

They don't sleep. Ever. Theres always some awake. You'd have to be some kind of stealth obbsessed ninja to get past bandits. And it's only when they're asleep you can feed.
Not true, I've caught them sleeping.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:33 pm

Vampires are not awesome. They are heinous undead creatures that feed on the living. Shows like True Blood and movies like the Twilight series have taken way too much "creative license" and poisoned the minds of the younger generation. They are not cool, they are not sixy, they are not nice, and they don't drive Volvos. Vampirism is not some disease than can be conveniently be cured when you get tired of it - it is an eternal state that grants immortality as long as you feed on victims on a regular basis.

The flaming will now commence. :dry:

All that being said: at least you don't have to kill your victims to feed (as I understand it). The vampirism in this game is done a certain way and you have to follow it's rules if you want to be a Vampire. It's more like an iron deficiecny than any 'true' vampirism.
You insult Dracula. And Cyrodiilic vampires are sixy. Lord Lovidicus got into an orc's pants, Seridur got frisky with Roland's wife...I'm sure Jakben mentioned a girl in his journal, Amiela or something? Oh and Movarth seduced Alva, who in turn seduced a whole bunch of guys in Morthal.

Vampires(Not all in ES) are sixy...but they rather feed on you after they had six with you. Or maybe just turn you too. Unlike Edward from Twilight, who falls in love with his food.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:57 am

vampires are really hard to play if u are a melee guy who likes bashing around with ur stamina. Cuz health/stamina/mana dont regen, u r basically screwed. I disliked vampires too, but they work great on my assassin. Other types of combat tactics dont fit with vampires well, unless u like to run under the moonlight, which i think its too dark
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