Hi i am writing to see what your guys think about the topic should video games be considered art. It would really mean alot to me if a moderator responds but anyone is allowed to post and their opinions are welcome. Thank you i am doing this for school so it would be great if people respond and share their opinions

Yes. Look at Skyrim.

Please explain how you came to the conclusion that skyrim is art?

Of course video games are art. Some might not be, but the same can be said for any category classified as "art."

Anything that people put a bit of themselves into with the intent of sharing it with others in a way that invokes an emotion is art.

Yes. Now lets move on to more fruitful discussions.

Since art is something personal to everyone, some will classify games as art. That said, personally I've never played a video game I've considered art (visual novels, on the other hand...)

Depends on if the game is aiming for it to be.. Flower is art beautiful scenery Journey is as well its telling a story with great music.

As for a game like Battlefield no its a game it's pretty (despite the blue) but its just a FPS


It's PERFECT that's how. Everyone loves its the best game in world and forever!!!

I remember in Oblivion that quest that let the player go inside an NPC's painting, now that's art.

This is pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

Some say art is about, as stated already, putting a piece of yourself into your work and convey emotion. Some would say it's about simply creating something, irregardless of emotion.

Personally, I think art is a human concept and not an inherent natural one, and as such, is not real but rather some metaphysical entity that can only be percieved by a consciousness. And as for what is art and what is not, that depends upon the consciousness which will arbitrarily determine what is art based upon personal reasoning as there can be no objective reasoning.

What's wrong with Battlefield blue?

Or Skyrim grey? I've never had a problem with Skyrims coloring, some others seem to.

Seeing as how some people have seen steaming piles of poo as art, because of the way they were formed and how they looked, then I can very much agree with you.

Art is about as loose a term as there is. Now Fine arts...

The thing that people argue about against video games as fine art is that and I quote from Film critic Roger Ebert, who has argued that games can never be art, as he claims "they lack the authorial control seen in film, and leave too much up to choice."

To me Video games redefine the fine arts. Yes they are an art. They are also a fine art. Just as people have the choice to see what they want to see and interpret how they want to interpret various art-forms like dance, paintings, music, movies, poetry etc etc a video game merely brings that control and choice to a new light and lets the Art be manipulated to a small extent. It is interactive art. There are also various other types of art-forms IN the Video game that constitutes art like you know, the textures and such. There is ART in the way a story unfolds in a game, there is ART in the way you perceive the in game world with various artistic depictions of trees, buildings, creatures, etc etc, there is ART in what you listen to as you play the game, there is ART in pretty much every aspect of any game you have ever played. Even Pong from like the 1970's was artistic in how it was made and played. The art of skill in the game.

Does choice ruin art? Has a chef who created a master piece in the culinary ARTS have his piece of art destroyed when someone chooses to eat it the way they feel like eating it? The consumer has the choice to eat it ow they want and interact with it. Even how and what angle to view it from.

So yeah, video games are not only art. They are in some ways the ultimate form of art.

http://cdn.overclock.net/9/94/600x336px-LL-9496f5d0_bf3-alpha47.jpegand I wish exaggerating but I am not.

Thank god for FXAA it makes it les blatant but not all

Not in germany. Swastikas are only allowed to be showed in "art", but still swastikas are getting censored in the german versions of video games.

In my personal mind, there aren't too many video games that actually equal art. But that doesn't mean they can't be art. Depends on the game, depends how one defines art. For me, most of the time, I think a game may have awesome artwork/graphics/backgrounds etc, or a beautiful film-like cutscene, or some very cool programming/technical craftsmanship - the individual parts - but I won't see the whole package as art. A weird distinction, maybe, but it's how my mind works.

But if anyone thinks a video game absolutely can't be art (I'm looking at you, Mr. Ebert) then I'd point them to something like the recent indie release Botanicula. The artwork, the design, the music, the simple gameplay - for me at least it all gelled together into what I would call interactive art.

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Edit: why is that?

Do you ever post more than 4 to 5 words?Skyrim art? you have got to be kidding,art is meant to have some depth to it, we all know Skyrim doesn't.Actually crap on a plate could be considered art to some so Skyrim may be art

Sometimes yes sometimes nah. You have games like shadow of the colossus, max payne, and call of cthulhu that all really stir some emotion of out simply playing them. It's as much about being emotionally affected and drawn in as it is about just completing the game and getting through it. Games that are made like that I would consider art.

But creating a game for entertainment value alone, battlefield, ninja gaiden, ect...nah I dont think so. Dont get me wrong, I would like to see games finally get there and I do believe the medium is well on it's way, but massive corporations (Bobby Kotick, are you actually trying to push progress in video games backwards?) dont want to take risks with publishing/developing their games because they want as much 13 year old kids as possible saving up their pocket munz to buy it on release day. I like a bit from column A and a bit from B, hence when bioshock: infinite and dishonored come out I plan a swinger-style bigamy with both

Considering the [censored] that is considered art these days. Sure why not.

Exactly.

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Yes, playing World of Goo I can totally see the art.

All he does is praise Skyrim, in literally almost every post.

But Skyrim is absolutely gorgeous. You could say the same about a painting. "Where's the depth?". It's a painting.

Certain games immediately bring out the aesthetic response in me, like Shadow of the Colossus (visuals and design) and Planescape: Torment (story and themes). However, I don't consider most titles to be art in the narrow sense; Skyrim for example looks good and is probably fun to play (didn't play it myself), but doesn't stand out in any category enough to be a work of art in my perspective. Morrowind would be the ES-title closest to it, I guess, due to the exotic nature and lore.

Not in the same sense as a drawing or a painting. Are you going to frame your disc/box and hang it on the wall?
I guess if films and photography are considered art then parts of the game like cut scenes and screenshots can be considered art other with the gameplay itself is just a game and more comparable to a story book than an art piece.

Maybe games could be considered Modern Art, but we all know Modern Art isn't really art at all, it's just a mess passed off as art of the 21st century.