Werewolf, Vampire Lord Perk tree Confirmed and Crossbows use : V

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:45 am

Im hoping crossbows are not has strong as bows.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:56 pm

Why not?

I personally suspect that crossbows will be more accurate, and allow you to move at full speed while they're ready to fire, as well as do more damage, at the cost of a far slower reload speed which may require you to stop moving altogether.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:23 pm

Im hoping crossbows are not has strong as bows.

Cross bows can pierce Plate mail at close to medium ranges.. it could not go as far as a bow because of the increased weigh of the projectile... but they were easier to use then bows which require days of training to use properly.. They should be stronger then bows considering that most of the time battles occur in caves or forts.. The cross bows biggest disadvantage was the long reload time...

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:55 am

Crossbows have always been stronger than bows; both in real life and in games. The biggest disadvantages, as stated above, are the long reload speed, and the decreased distance of the bolt. Personally? I'm just glad to see them back. I was very disappointed when they were left out of Oblivion and Skyrim. To have them back in Skyrim will be amazing. (: Imagine smithing a daedric crossbow.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:46 am

I certainly think there should be a difference between bows and crossbows, yes

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:46 am

i hope werewolf/vampire lord have more than 4-5 perks

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:24 am

Considering this DLC is designed for higher level player characters, I would imagine the available crossbows will be quite powerful.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:09 am

Crossbows have always been stronger than bows; both in real life and in games. The biggest disadvantages, as stated above, are the long reload speed, and the decreased distance of the bolt. Personally? I'm just glad to see them back. I was very disappointed when they were left out of Oblivion and Skyrim. To have them back in Skyrim will be amazing. (: Imagine smithing a daedric crossbow.

Sorry dude, I have been hunting my entire life. Bows pack more of a punch while crossbows are more accurate. Both can kill you in one shot though. Also, Crossbows take a more considerable amount of time to reload.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:16 pm

i hope werewolf/vampire lord have more than 4-5 perks

From the scan I seen, The Vampirelord had 3 dots on the perk tree.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:25 am

Crossbows should be stronger than bows(It makes sense), be more accurate, but have less range. And I guess slower to reload?

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:53 am

Crossbows will definately hit harder than Bows, but take longer to reload and not have as far of a range, like in Morrowind. Crossbows were also a bit more cross-hair accurate in Morrowind.

Sorry dude, I have been hunting my entire life. Bows pack more of a punch while crossbows are more accurate. Both can kill you in one shot though. Also, Crossbows take a more considerable amount of time to reload.

That's Bows vs Hunting Crossbows. Not Military Crossbows. Crossbows that were designed/used militarily, were much more powerful than a bow. Like said before, the bolts fired from a military crossbow, were very capable of piercing thick, heavy Plate Mail. In fact, they were designed for it.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:13 am

From the scan I seen, The Vampirelord had 3 dots on the perk tree.

What scan?

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:13 pm

From the scan I seen, The Vampirelord had 3 dots on the perk tree.

It actually had 7, only 3 of them were unlocked. The two upper highlighted perks join at another perk just above them, which connects to a higher one. There are two more connected to the first perk.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:26 am

If you just google Vampire Lord Skyrim Perks and go to images you will see it.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:50 am

It actually had 7, only 3 of them were unlocked. The two upper highlighted perks join at another perk just above them, which connects to a higher one. There are two more connected to the first perk.

Okay maybe there is four

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:36 am

i just want a exact release date

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:51 am

And how do you earn perk points for those trees? Invest standard perk points? So endgame chars a screwed.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:46 am

And how do you earn perk points for those trees? Invest standard perk points? So endgame chars a screwed.

Vampires earn perks by feeding on people.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:34 am

got a lvl 54 and a lvl 35, im kinda screwed. maybe a redo on perks option!

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:41 pm

I know that you level up that "skill" by feeding or using Vampire Powers. I am not sure if it will supply special Vampire Perks or if you have to use your own.

End Game characters should be fine though. Since there are more skills being added, the level cap will be raised.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:58 am

Im hoping crossbows are not has strong as bows.

Why wouldn't they be? You do understand that once machinery was invented, the crossbow largely replaced the longbow because it was so much more powerful, right? If anything, crossbows should be more powerful, but slower than standard bows. They should also be able to pierce armor.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:30 am

And how do you earn perk points for those trees? Invest standard perk points? So endgame chars a screwed.

got a lvl 54 and a lvl 35, im kinda screwed. maybe a redo on perks option!

I know that you level up that "skill" by feeding or using Vampire Powers. I am not sure if it will supply special Vampire Perks or if you have to use your own.

End Game characters should be fine though. Since there are more skills being added, the level cap will be raised.

They are not adding new Skills and raising the Level Cap. They are however, making it to where you automatically gain perks in either the Vampire Lord or Lycanthropy Trees once you feed X amount of times. So there is no usage of actual perk points.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:23 am

They are not adding new Skills and raising the Level Cap. They are however, making it to where you automatically gain perks in either the Vampire Lord or Lycanthropy Trees once you feed X amount of times. So there is no usage of actual perk points.

Cool. Will it take into account my current werewolf stats (werewolf victims etc.) or do I have to "train" anew?

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:17 am

As much as I hate this being spoiled, I'm glad to hear they're in existence.

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:12 pm

Okay maybe there is four...

I think I see one more above the fourth one, so I'd wager there's at least five different perks. There could be some of varying magnitudes.

Also, I'd remove the link just to be safe. From what I heard posting scans is against the rules.