What Does Experience Mean?

Post » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:01 am

Seems like bad luck never seems to end as I was told there was no available position at a place I was hoping to work at. Tried several times this year to get into about 8 to 10 different establishments yet it seems I was either met with "We Are Full" or "Sorry we don't have a position you can work in." Even going online to the want ads all I see are jobs at entry level positions wanting people with a minimum of 2 years of experience. Worst one I saw was for a landscaper which could be filled by a person with a GED yet wanted 2 years of experience. I have to say this is exacerbating and it seems as though there is no end in sight to this problem.

I certainly understand the need for experience when going for a managerial type position or a senior level position but not for something that can be filled by a person with a GED/HS Diploma. Sadly it seems as though i'm not the only one since I read an article some time ago about graduates from a law school. They had their diplomas hot in hand and read to work yet they were greeted with unemployment because firms only wanted people with experience.

Are degrees, diplomas, doctorates, and such out with the only thing that matters to a company being experience?
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Post » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:02 am

I know 3 people who graduated from college and have degrees in various fields of study, yet they have no jobs.

So experience obviously doesn't mean much.
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Post » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:44 pm

As the week go by, I am noticing my bachelors degree in chemistry is coming up short without a lot of experience. A lot of chem companies seems to have an extremely high demand for those with 1-2 or 2-3 years of lab experience (of which is lab experience outside of school), which annoys me. Can't get any experience if I am constantly denied the opportunity. Seems they expect everyone to intern freshmen year if they plan on having a job. Not like I didn't do research either, too.

As I see it, it comes down to picking someone from a giant pool of degrees, and the easiest way to weed out a lot of that pool is to put in experience requirements.
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Post » Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:48 am

Are degrees, diplomas, doctorates, and such out with the only thing that matters to a company being experience?


For most jobs I'm starting to think so (with the exception, of course, being jobs where a degree or better is essential). I can understand why in some cases employers would insist on prior experience, but a lot of the time now it just feels like they're looking for any way to narrow down the candidate pool, or to essentially discriminate on the shaky basis of age in a manner that's semi-justifiable. And besides, don't we all have to start somewhere?
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Post » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:13 am

Are degrees, diplomas, doctorates, and such out with the only thing that matters to a company being experience?

I hope not. What have I been paying all this money for?

Good thing my degree would have been nearly useless anyway. Liberal arts FTW.
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Post » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:10 pm

For most jobs I'm starting to think so (with the exception, of course, being jobs where a degree or better is essential). I can understand why in some cases employers would insist on prior experience, but a lot of the time now it just feels like they're looking for any way to narrow down the candidate pool, or to essentially discriminate on the shaky basis of age in a manner that's semi-justifiable. And besides, don't we all have to start somewhere?
And with this economy, taking someone with 1-3 years of RL experience is a much safer bet than a student right out of college. They also probably cost less, as the amount of training needed is likely to be less.

But as I said earlier, one can't get any experience if there is no way to even enter the market.
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Post » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:04 am

I know 3 people who graduated from college and have degrees in various fields of study, yet they have no jobs.

So experience obviously doesn't mean much.

Education =/= experience.
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Post » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:15 am

As the week go by, I am noticing my bachelors degree in chemistry is coming up short without a lot of experience. A lot of chem companies seems to have an extremely high demand for those with 1-2 or 2-3 years of lab experience (of which is lab experience outside of school), which annoys me. Can't get any experience if I am constantly denied the opportunity. Seems they expect everyone to intern freshmen year if they plan on having a job. Not like I didn't do research either, too.

As I see it, it comes down to picking someone from a giant pool of degrees, and the easiest way to weed out a lot of that pool is to put in experience requirements.


There are scientists in the oil fields getting thousandS of dollars per hr.
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Post » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:17 am

I'm not close to those places, nor the capital to relocate.

Also, to illustrate what Narmy said, the top chemistry student in my school was someone who studied almost all the time, got As in every class she took, and was basically the perfect lecture student. However, when it came to doing lab work and research, she had the problem of making a lot of rookie mistakes and errors.
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Post » Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:07 pm

For me it's just a big mixing pot of past and present. I've been through plenty of bad jobs, during school, that I know what I want to find in a workplace. At this point I'm just focused on finishing my degree as soon as possible and trying to keep an eye on the job market.

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My brother went through the same thing after getting an ME degree. Right now he's doing nothing but converting files from SolidWorks to some other design program.

There are probably school positions at some smaller, or larger colleges that could use a tech.
I mean, it's at least something to put on a resume.

There are scientists in the oil fields getting thousandS of dollars per hr.

two weeks salary...in an hour...
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