The character I played this quest with is a good girl. A dark skinned Breton mage. Always cheerful and helpful. Uses bound sword and enchanted daggers and shield. She's lost a few companions in the deep places in the world and has been deeply saddened by this.

Then at level 30 I came across a shack and a dead nord was laying on the bed. I was then attacked by a Boethiah Cultist. After dispatching him I read the book Boethiah's Proving and travelled East of Windhelm to her Shrine looking to dispatch her.

What I found was the cult's priestess and more followers sparring or brawling or fighting to the death. I spoke to the priestess and after she told me I am nothing I attacked her. I wanted to kill them all. But I kept getting killed about 12 times in a row no matter what tactics, potions, spells or scrolls I used.

Eventually I won after running to the place nearby where I had killed two frost trolls and the cultist's got stuck on the stairs so I spammed spells until they all died.

I returned to the shrine, only to find that I was still expected to sacrifice my companion. I can't believe I sacrificed Brelyna Maryon from the College. After all we've been through together! I remember when she practiced her spells on me. She has been a friend from the start even till now, and I am the arch mage!

She was so trusting and kind when I asked her to touch the pillar. She didn't even say anything when the magic trapped her and I drew my bound sword. Just as the guy in the book drew his sword to dispatch the last other remaining follower of Bothiah in the book.

I am disgusted at myself for doing this human sacrifice. My character is disgusted. What can she do now? Her world has darkened to the deepest depths.
Eveything started out so innocent but has become so sinister!

A friend, a life has been lost, and for what? Some ebony armour? Its not worth a life. Its not worth the pain and the torment my character now suffers.

What can I do in Skyrim now? How can I forgive myself? What have I become?

Considering you knew they were going to die and considering what Boethiah embodies, what did you honestly expect would happen when they touched the pillar. You knew they would die. You could have just left and never returned but you knew that someone would be killed and still you did it anyway. You have no one to blame but yourself for your actions.

P.S. Ebony Mail>>>>>>>>>random Markarth Mercenary

I Wasnt able to do such a heinous act even if it was using some 500gold hussy. murdering townsmen, ok, eating human flesh, fine, but never could i slay my followers for some random piece of armor. So i took the cowardly way out and used the console to advance the quest past the human sacrifice part.

sometimes you just gotta grow a pair and do what you gotta do. yeah, i killed an innocent mother to join the dark brotherhood.

The mother called me mean names so I killed her

Why on earth would a Mage character want the Ebony Mail anyway? It's heavy armour made for sneaky murdering types not innocent little girls.

But really, you couldn't say no?

Boethia Priest: "You must lead an innocent person to the shrine, trap them in a magic spell and sacrifice them so that Boethia can use their body to materialise in this realm."
You: "Hmmm...I don't know about that. I'm suppose to be good here."
Boethia Priest: "You're nothing."
You: "Oh yeah? Die you evil scumbag! Nobody calls me 'nothing' and lives!"

12 Reloads later...

You: "We sure kicked some butt hey Brelyna? That will teach them to insult us! BFF you and I hey?"
Brelyna: "Have ever seen such a sight?"
You: "Well, let's go see where Boethia's hiding so we can get some armour I don't need."
Brelyna: "..."
You: "Damn, I still need to kill a follower. Ah well, Brelyna you're it I'm afraid. I really need to finish this quest to satisfy my OCD. But don't worry, I'll write something on the forums about it so that nobody will ever forget you. And just maybe someone will be able to make me feel like it wasn't such a selfish, murdering, evil, backstabbing thing to do."

Bleh this is why I did the Ring of Namira quest. I used my cannibalistic follower as killing fodder

Yea... I did the same to a random guy from the companions.. He looked so innocent, strapped to that pillar, looking at me with a "why would you do this?" stare... Probably not what he had in mind when I told him to "follow me". And he did, and never questioned.

Maybe your character was influenced by the god to commit the act... My character knew exactly what she was doing, having dealt with daedric lords before... She knew it would mean getting some item of power. Renegade, is a decent explanation, I guess. Sometimes you got to do bad things for the greater good.

At least your character can live the rest of her skyrim life making amends, and making the death of her friend worth it, honoring her sacrifice and using the ebony mail to dispatch evil? But I guess innocence has been lost in that sense. Think she can ever become "whole"?

Actually being champion of the Daedric gods/lords has it's setback. When they find someone better, they will replace you as the new champion and your soul the servant of the daedra for all eternity. It's a cut throat business I tell yah. Interseting to note; if your a champion of multiple daedras, I wonder who gets to keep your soul. This might lead to a war in the realm of Oblivion or maybe thery'll just rip your poor soul in to pieces.

Hildi Witchbane has seen this many times before. A mage may start out with good intentions but their path inevitably leads to trafficking with Daedra, corruption and dark deeds. It may be harsh but the corruption must be excised before it spreads and does harm. Kill all mages.

I rofl'd. Gonna have have to quote this next time someone brings up this subject; it happens too often xd





What greater good might THAT be? - Are you telling me you couldn't have saved the world without the ebony mail? (it's not even that good)

Indeed: and I imagine my characters soul will just be completely ripped apart once they find out she's been playing them all, and knowingly so.

Let's just say she was giving away something that wasn't really hers to begin with (it was hircinde's) and she might cure herself to get it back from her.




If she keeps telling herself that, maybe it will become true. "But... I needed it. Tamriel needed it. I did the right thing. I can save other with this. It's for the greater good." XD

How do you know she was innocent. She said she'd spit in your face. She was obviously a cheating beotch whose husband wanted her dead. Doing it quickly was better than stoning her. I only left the mercenary alive. My character's a mercenary, ahem "adventurer", so I don't think he did anything my character wouldn't have done.

you know there is a loop hole to this daedic quest

I used Roggi whatshisname, who seemed to completely trust me simply because I happened to find his shield in a cave i was exploring.

And 'used' is a very accurate word there. It was his first adventure with me... and his last.

I wasn't always like this though. It began with Meridia. Slaying undead and necromancers is good, right? Then Azura. Another necromancer to slay, and an artifact to purify. Vaermina was next. In the end, I destroyed the Skull of corruption... but I had to think about it. I helped the Orcs of Largashbur throw off their curse, and freed a Prince (my own ancestor!) from the mind of a madman.

I did something for Sanguine, but I can't quite remember what it was. I slew a child killer for Hircine, and took his skin as a trophy. I returned both Balbus and the Rueful axe to Clavicus Vile, despite his not really wanting them. I retrieved an Elder scroll at the behest of an addled man living under a glacier, and murdered him at his master's behest. I stole the Ebony Blade from a hidden room under Dragonsreach, in spite of the warnings that accompanied it.

I killed a great many who would have started a plague in Peryite's name, at his order... was this Good? I'm not sure anymore.

I slew an evil priest for Molag Bal; rationalizing now, ignoring the fact that I tortured him into submission first. I slew another for Mehrunes Dagon. I could have let him run, but I wanted that blade.

I fully realized my downfall when I betrayed a Priest of Arkay, and feasted on his corpse in Namira's honor. What have I done? Then at last, I answered Boethiah's calling, and poor trusting Roggi paid the price for it.

The only prince left is Nocturnal, for which I must join the Thieves. After what I've already done, this feels almost "moral".

http://www.viruscomix.com/page519.html - "The history of the world isn't the history of throngs of evil people with glowing red eyes doing evil things. It's the history of throngs of average people out of touch with their own faults"

Your soul becomes timeshare property.

Are the Oblivion planes bound by Akatosh's rule of linear time? - if not you could end up serving all the prices simultaneously (albeit in a linear fashion)... if I were a cruel daedric prince I'd have some fun with that; getting in cahoots with one of my daedric prince buddies to set up this poor sap to fight himself somehow (perhap set up one timeline of himself to create something and tasking his other timeline version to undo his own work)

lol I didn't know I would get ebony armour for it. And I gave the armour to my new companion anyway. And I didn't hear the priestess say anything about trapping anyone. I didn't click the dialogue that leads that way.
It was Boethiah herself that said I had to trap someone.
I wanted to fight and defeat Boethiah. I didn't even need a reward for taking her out lol.

lol so Boethiah's Calling was a walk in the park for you then!

You did something that repulsed you , and now you're trying to reconcile the action by doing exactly what boethiah stands for by fulfilling her role as her champion and being dominant and killing others in revenge for being dragged into this situation. You are truly snared by a deceitful diety that is toying with you now , you've made a decision to listen to something that cares very little about you beyond your value as amusemant. So your only recourse now is to keep on that path and feel like you're vindicating yourself , but in truth the betrayal was commited from the start , not at some step in the middle. There is no vindication for intentionally acting on what was asked of you regardless of your personal beliefs. Embrace your new status as puppet #84765473 of boethiah , she's been doing this to mortals for a very long time and is very good at it. Or do nothing more in the way of killing in the name of revenge to spite her expectations and move on and accept your failing.

Ah I see. Well in that case yyou got nothing to feel bad about. I mean, an evil Daedric prince telling you to betray and murder some one makes it totally except-able since nobody can say no to Daedra. Right? Right...


Hehe, just messing with you.

indeed, i point people towards the last tale in http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Myths_of_Sheogorath

so out of all these deadric princes who gets you'r soul there's at least 4 maybe 5 i can think of that wants it so how do they decide such a thing doubt it's as easy as rock paper scissors

you are obviously evil and can just go do all daedric quests.