When will the next patch be out?

Post » Mon May 28, 2012 9:34 pm

Since the latest patch the FPS is down by 20FPS on a LOWER graphics setting. Since I bought the game on steam I do not have discs to install the vanilla version of the game (which ran just fine on my computer) I would like to know when the next patch is live. I am hopeful it helps me with this. People claim it is my machine, but it is not in vanilla I could run the game on higher settings with more FPS. My computer is well within the recommended specs as well.

The laptop specs are:

I7 1.6 Gigaherts Q 720
6 Gigabytes DDR3 RAM
Windows 7 64-Bit
Nvidia Geforce GT 230M


Sure it is not high end and it is a laptop, but it ran the game well before 1.3.10. Unfortunately I am not able to re-install the game to vanilla as I bought the game on Steam, which installs all patches upon reinstall. I have no clue how a patch that is supposed to make the game run better would make it less playable.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 11:16 pm

1.4 will be out this month.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 11:52 pm

The sooner the better. I just hope they fix the mess that 1.3.10 caused me. IT took alot of effort to get the game playable. With the new patch I have to run the game on lower settings with LESS FPS than before. I have no CD so I cannot re-install the game without the patch. :(
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 11:56 pm

The sooner the better. I just hope they fix the mess that 1.3.10 caused me. IT took alot of effort to get the game playable. With the new patch I have to run the game on lower settings with LESS FPS than before. I have no CD so I cannot re-install the game without the patch. :(

don't be sad about the cd thingy. on steam, a dvd is merely a local cache for content. on reinstalling a game, even using the dvd data, steam will directly patch it while getting the last bits needed for the install completion.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 12:36 pm

Well the problem is that my machine while within the recommended specs, does not run the game well because 1.3.10 killed my FPS. Granted before I could only run the game at Medium to medium high settings. Now, I can only run the game at medium / low settings with LESS FPS. Bethesda dropped the ball on this, I think they should help us somehow. For instance I would not complain if they made it so people could install the vanilla version. The vanilla version ran well enough on my computer.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 11:44 am

Well the problem is that my machine while within the recommended specs, does not run the game well because 1.3.10 killed my FPS. Granted before I could only run the game at Medium to medium high settings. Now, I can only run the game at medium / low settings with LESS FPS. Bethesda dropped the ball on this, I think they should help us somehow. For instance I would not complain if they made it so people could install the vanilla version. The vanilla version ran well enough on my computer.
I don't know what your case is, but nobody I've seen on these forums has such performance issues with the patch. Is it possible that you updated your GPU drivers/anything else at the same time, making you think that it's the fault of the patch?
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 11:34 pm

Well the problem is that my machine while within the recommended specs, does not run the game well because 1.3.10 killed my FPS. Granted before I could only run the game at Medium to medium high settings. Now, I can only run the game at medium / low settings with LESS FPS. Bethesda dropped the ball on this, I think they should help us somehow. For instance I would not complain if they made it so people could install the vanilla version. The vanilla version ran well enough on my computer.

i very much doubt that valve will update steam to allow people to install specific version, so as skyrim is a steamworks game, it's a sure guess you won't be able to stick to one specific version. in a perfect world, this wouldn't be a problem, but all major games released on steam in my experience had some game breaking patch released (was the case for empire total war, civ 5, mafia 2 and, well, skyrim)
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 12:55 pm

I don't know what your case is, but nobody I've seen on these forums has such performance issues with the patch. Is it possible that you updated your GPU drivers/anything else at the same time, making you think that it's the fault of the patch?

That's because it's not the patch but his setup that's the problem.

The only thing 1.3.10 added was LAA. So suddenly instead of being limited to 2GB RAM Skyrim can access 4GB RAM. His Laptop has a total of 6GB. Since it is a Laptop it's a given that his graphics adapter will share some of that 6GB RAM. Probably between 512MB and 1GB. Windows can use anything between 1 and 2GB RAM. So already you only have 3GB free. Give another 500MB to the odd background application and you're left with roughly 2.5GB RAM. But lets be lenient and say it's 3GB. Skyrim is suddenly capable of using 4GB RAM like I said. Only, it has to fight for it because there's not enough to go around. So it starts using the cache file to make up for the shortage which is disk space and is very slow compared to RAM. The graphics adapter will also struggle because it will have to fight for RAM of which there just ain't enough.

In other words, get more RAM.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 2:29 pm



That's because it's not the patch but his setup that's the problem.

The only thing 1.3.10 added was LAA. So suddenly instead of being limited to 2GB RAM Skyrim can access 4GB RAM. His Laptop has a total of 6GB. Since it is a Laptop it's a given that his graphics adapter will share some of that 6GB RAM. Probably between 512MB and 1GB. Windows can use anything between 1 and 2GB RAM. So already you only have 3GB free. Give another 500MB to the odd background application and you're left with roughly 2.5GB RAM. But lets be lenient and say it's 3GB. Skyrim is suddenly capable of using 4GB RAM like I said. Only, it has to fight for it because there's not enough to go around. So it starts using the cache file to make up for the shortage which is disk space and is very slow compared to RAM. The graphics adapter will also struggle because it will have to fight for RAM of which there just ain't enough.

In other words, get more RAM.

And a faster CPU to handle it all properly. 1.6ghz is sooooo low, whether it has p4 or i7 slapped onto it, that clock speed is dire for this game.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 4:52 pm

This is a pretty big hit. I wonder if it's really the patch that caused this.
But anyway. After the 1.2 patch a lot of people downgraded to 1.1 due to the bugs.
All you need is to replace the interface.bsa and the tesv.exe with the older versions, nothing else has changed since 1.1, afaik.
The files should still be out there, if you can dig up the old threads you might find some links and info on how to do it.

You wouldn't even circumvent Steam-DRM, as it's still the original files, only older ones.

Edit:
Win7 keeps backups of your files, you might use this feature to revert to older versions, if your Win7 has kept them.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 9:32 pm

I don't know what your case is, but nobody I've seen on these forums has such performance issues with the patch. Is it possible that you updated your GPU drivers/anything else at the same time, making you think that it's the fault of the patch?

On Skyrim Nexus plenty of people have mentioned it. Most people might not care because they can spare the 20 FPS loss I cannot.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 12:06 pm

And a faster CPU to handle it all properly. 1.6ghz is sooooo low, whether it has p4 or i7 slapped onto it, that clock speed is dire for this game.

I think it is amazing people bash my machine, sure it is lower end I, but it ran the game fine before the patch, it also is well within specs to run the game especially if you consider turbo boost mode. After the patch I got a 20ish FPS loss on the SAME settings. In some areas it made the game unplayable. I think it is great that you can afford an expensive computer, I cannot and I cannot upgrade mine because it is a laptop. One mistake I made was to think you could game well on a laptop.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 11:03 pm

This is a pretty big hit. I wonder if it's really the patch that caused this.
But anyway. After the 1.2 patch a lot of people downgraded to 1.1 due to the bugs.
All you need is to replace the interface.bsa and the tesv.exe with the older versions, nothing else has changed since 1.1, afaik.
The files should still be out there, if you can dig up the old threads you might find some links and info on how to do it.

You wouldn't even circumvent Steam-DRM, as it's still the original files, only older ones.

Edit:
Win7 keeps backups of your files, you might use this feature to revert to older versions, if your Win7 has kept them.

where i can I find these files? I cannot roll back windows 7 as I do not have a backup from before the patch.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 9:31 pm

That's because it's not the patch but his setup that's the problem.

The only thing 1.3.10 added was LAA. So suddenly instead of being limited to 2GB RAM Skyrim can access 4GB RAM. His Laptop has a total of 6GB. Since it is a Laptop it's a given that his graphics adapter will share some of that 6GB RAM. Probably between 512MB and 1GB. Windows can use anything between 1 and 2GB RAM. So already you only have 3GB free. Give another 500MB to the odd background application and you're left with roughly 2.5GB RAM. But lets be lenient and say it's 3GB. Skyrim is suddenly capable of using 4GB RAM like I said. Only, it has to fight for it because there's not enough to go around. So it starts using the cache file to make up for the shortage which is disk space and is very slow compared to RAM. The graphics adapter will also struggle because it will have to fight for RAM of which there just ain't enough.

In other words, get more RAM.

Well I have heard that is possible. Not to say it is the setup, but someone said on Skyrim Nexus that the patch improved performance on desktops, but hurt performance on notebooks. Like I said before, my computer is not as bad as some think, its clock speed is deceptive. Sure it is not a top of the line machine, but it is still a decent machine considering it is 2 years old. I may just do that and get more RAM. Would it work to use a flashdrive for RAM? Someone in the past told me it works decently enough.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 10:08 pm

When it's done.

I would rather a patch that works, then a quick patch that breaks more things...

EDIT:
Also have you tried SkyBoost, it may be able to help you gain some FPS:
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1331790-skyboost-topic-5/

There are lots of contributing factors here, do you use mods? Have you tried updating your Geforce card? The lastest Nvidia BETA drivers are said to offer a 25% performance boost to Skyrim and other optimizations. Have you changed any computer settings? Have you tried closing all programs running in the background? Have you added anything new that could be conflicting with Skyrim?
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 8:12 pm

That's because it's not the patch but his setup that's the problem.

The only thing 1.3.10 added was LAA. So suddenly instead of being limited to 2GB RAM Skyrim can access 4GB RAM. His Laptop has a total of 6GB. Since it is a Laptop it's a given that his graphics adapter will share some of that 6GB RAM. Probably between 512MB and 1GB. Windows can use anything between 1 and 2GB RAM. So already you only have 3GB free. Give another 500MB to the odd background application and you're left with roughly 2.5GB RAM. But lets be lenient and say it's 3GB. Skyrim is suddenly capable of using 4GB RAM like I said. Only, it has to fight for it because there's not enough to go around. So it starts using the cache file to make up for the shortage which is disk space and is very slow compared to RAM. The graphics adapter will also struggle because it will have to fight for RAM of which there just ain't enough.

In other words, get more RAM.

Just because it can now ACCESS 4GB doesn't mean it needs 4GB free... I have a total of 4GB which Windows uses about 1 - 2 GB and I run mainly everything on High with only AA X2 and AF X2 with an average of 40 - 50 FPS. Having access to 4GB should only give you a smoother performance, but if he played before patch 1.3.10 with little issue he should be fine now. Unless Skyrim is trying to access RAM that is not available for some reason because he has over 4GB and it's just now causing issues. But the game technically does not NEED 4 GB. I would agree though his CPU speed is a little low but Skyrim should be optimized for Quad core processors so the workload should be spread out over all the cores.

I would say his biggest issue is his GPU... labtop & gaming never goes well.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 5:24 pm

I wasn't bashing your machine, it's just a well known fact that this game needs a fast clock speed.

Given that it's a laptop, check your power options are set to performance, cpu speed is set to 100%, and your gpu performance (in CCC) is set to 100% also.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 9:08 pm

1.4 will be out this month.
No offense, but it could also be released on 31st of this month. I just wish there were mini-patches to fix things that you can fix via consoles like TG03.
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 3:01 am


No offense, but it could also be released on 31st of this month. I just wish there were mini-patches to fix things that you can fix via consoles like TG03.

The last patch was a mini patch.

It's the second week in jan, and they were off over Xmas and new year, people need to give them a bloody chance.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 3:44 pm

The last patch was a mini patch.

It's the second week in jan, and they were off over Xmas and new year, people need to give them a bloody chance.
I know, right? The game is just too good I can't wait to play as I stopped due to bugs. I still think Bethesda is the best Game Studio, the only one that can make a single player game that is competitive with MMOs. In fact, Bethesda, BioWare is scared of you that is why when you unsubscribe from swtor and choose another game as reason there is Skyrim among numerous MMOs! You should spread the word about it in your offices to cheer people up !
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 1:52 pm

I know, right? The game is just too good I can't wait to play as I stopped due to bugs. I still think Bethesda is the best Game Studio, the only one that can make a single player game that is competitive with MMOs. In fact, Bethesda, BioWare is scared of you that is why when you unsubscribe from swtor and choose another game as reason there is Skyrim among numerous MMOs! You should spread the word about it in your offices to cheer people up !

You said it brother :) I can understand people wanting more patches quickly, not just to fix game breaking bugs, but to make this great game better :)
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 3:52 am

No offense, but it could also be released on 31st of this month.
I sincerely hope no one is offended by the suggestion that January 31st is in January. :)
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 12:12 pm

I don't even think the new patch would help mate. 1.6 is lower than min specs to run the game I thought.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 9:33 pm

I don't even think the new patch would help mate. 1.6 is lower than min specs to run the game I thought.

No all that was said was that a "Quad-core Intel or AMD CPU" is recommended, it was not specified, and a 2.0 for Dual Core as a minimum, but having a dual core and quad core is very different if the game is mulithreaded.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 12:21 pm



No all that was said was that a "Quad-core Intel or AMD CPU" is recommended, it was not specified, and a 2.0 for Dual Core as a minimum, but having a dual core and quad core is very different if the game is mulithreaded.

Begging your pardon mate, but if min says 2ghz, I thought it was implied you need that speed for recomended to :shrug: otherwise they contradict eachother.
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