Well she's one of the very few "not totally completely evil" daedra, but she's still a daedra. She can drive men mad with visions, and this is reflected in her quest anyways. You don't have to do anything really evil to get Azura's Star though.

I tend to think of her as a benevolent pet owner. She doesn't really care what we do most of the time, and occasionally she'll dress us up in silly outfits, or put us in unpleasant situations... and she'll punish us if we do something she doesn't like... but not technically evil. We're only mortals, after all... well beneath any level of respect.

Not really no. Its just, in the case of the guy that was trying to corrupt her Star, she was blamed by the College for him going insane. Which I seriously doubt was her fault anyways. He was either insane to begin with, or driven there by meddling with forces beyond mortal comprehension. Or, its just a case of Nords trying to make the Dunmers religion look bad.

I really think most of the Daedra aren't good or evil. Just, beyond our understanding. Or, they just don't care about mortals. Are you evil if you step on an ant? To a Daedric Prince, there's probably no difference between your average mortal and an insect anyways. We're all disposable to them.

I never played the prior Elder Scrolls but from what I gathered from the load screen the Daedra are all "inherently" evil and any artifacts associated with them are going to have evil deeds attached to them. You also have to remember that the Daedric artifacts have nothing to do at all with the main Storyline. They are simply put in the game for flavor and lore. You can avoid them entirely if you are RPing a good guy. Much like the Dark Brotherhood, Thieves Guild and Civil War arcs.

For me I don't have a problem doing them at all as I realize that as the Dragonborn all these "lesser" gods and human factions are mere tools to find my true calling.

As a side note though I chose the Black Star path as my reward as I felt that there was a overabundance of regular soul gems and I have only aquired 3 Black Soul gems in my 20+ hours of play. ALSO you can use the Black Star/Azura Star to enchant items as well as recharge items and it never gets consumed. Only the soul inside is used. I had heard that there was a bug on Xbox that was allowing regualr souls to also to be consumed into the Black Star but I have not paid enough attention to test this as I have so many soul stones already.

Oh come now, you think Azura can't get angry at someone for trying to corrupt her artifact? Of course it was her that drove him insane. The one thing Daedra hate most is betrayal. Why even Azura's quest in Morrowind was to prevent Sheogorath from forcing one of her priestesses to break a 100 year vow of silence.

There's also the book Azura and the Box, where she curses and kills a Dwemer that tries to trick her.

In my opinion, as long as they do not ask me to kill innocent people I consider them as non-evil.

Hmmm...is Boethiah priest consider "innocent"?

Do you appear to specifically-chosen ants and say "if you will go into your own nest and kill your own queen, I will give this entire cube of sugar to you"? The Daedra are tremendously interested in mortals because they need them for access to the world. They withdrew from the creation of Nirn to keep more of their own power-to-act (remaining Daedra instead of becoming Aedra), but doing so meant their aspects had little to do with the world and they were locked out. They need mortals to let them back in, are very interested in their affairs, and know exactly the effects they are having.

Further, they are well aware that their aspects are inimical, if not outright antithetical, to the denizens of the world.

I agree OP. I am at lvl 41 atm, and my Azura's star has never even been filled once. I find so many soul gems all over the place I have never filled them all up, so Azura's star never gets used.

I play as a mage and like having Aranea along, though. She conjures up a storm! Also I give her two lightning staffs and she pours out some spectacular damage when here own magicka runs out.

Next play through I will be an assassin, and will definitely take the black version.

Plus, as a mage, the only enchanted weapons i use are staffs, and those rarely. So I don't need Azuras Star to recharge items anyway.

If you turn it into a black star - it absorbs ALL souls - white or black. I cant use it fast enough!

-TxT

Why would turn it into a black start be considered evil? Remenber that if you get a normal star your helping a daedric lord, none of then are good guys, even if azura did semm polite and well manered she's far from being good. Also the purpose of the black star is to fill it for work on enchatments... i don't see how that's evil.

Yes -- How could destroying people's souls be evil?

I keep hearing you can buy black soul gems from someone at the college.

How could absorbing and consuming animal and monster souls be considered good? Enchanting is Evil by Definition... given the number of necromancers out to get me, I see no reason not to return the favor, especially if I'm already walking the gray-area of an enchanter.

Yes, because let's just ignore all concepts of personal responsibility and the fact that the guy was trying to use it in a manner most definitely not intended nor desired by Azura herself to extend his lifespan well beyond natural means, a pursuit which of course always ends well.

I guess the real question is, what do you need so many souls for? I find I barely have to recharge my weapons - maybe once per dungeon. I mean, you need a lot of souls early on when training enchanting, so you can enchant a lot of crap, but you can skill up with the tons of petty, lesser, common soul gems you find thrown about like candy at a parade in this game. Personally, I find I don't need to enchant that often, so I don't need a large supply of Grand Souls.

I didn't go the route of turning the Star black, but I would hope (though knowing gamesas, this probably wouldn't happen), turning the Star black should incur some sort of penalty - a steep penalty. You have just not only defied a Daedric Prince, but you've also put yourself into opposition against the Aedra Arkay (who is also against the entrapment of human souls). Shouldn't making enemies of a Daedric Prince and an Aedra have some sort of consequence? Like, maybe you can't use Aedric shrines, all humanoid races become hostile as long as you're carrying the Black Star (well, except maybe Necromancers; perhaps they would actually become friendly. . . although they might stay hostile simply because they want to kill you and take the Black Star for themselves). Perhaps Azura curses you and you suffer a permanent decrease in health or magicka, (or, well, some sort of negative effect).

True, I am a regular customer!

AHAHA i convinced myself that im working undercover and that i am keeping an eye on the daedras Therefore my evil deeds are considerd necesarry act for the best of mankind

Useless? I hunt Mammoth for fun and profit. Nothing useless about that, my fiend.

The "penalty" is that it can't hold white souls.... except that it can due to a bug I guess... I haven't tried.

The only other penalty is the woman at the shrine of Azura calls you a blasphemer and you can't get her as a follower, but you can use her to try your new toy out...

By far the biggest advantage of the black star, however, is doing what this guy did(it has to do with Nazeem, the stuck up redguard from whiterun):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R7i3EA4IL0

When you do the quest to turn the star black, *something* escapes. Curious? Go try it again, if you've got a save near there. As you wake up afterwards, you'll find a red "Hostile" dot on your compass, and you'll hear something running off. I haven't managed to catch up to whatever it is, but I imagine it can lead to further consequences later.

Really, though, the Star is largely a novelty. Even black soul gems are extremely easy to obtain and relatively cheap in that via alchemy, smithing and enchanting money is largely irrelevant, make a bunch of enchanted daggers, then trade them for black gems. The shifty fellow in the college sells them, and always has at least one for sale, and they're less than 1000g (empty soul gems are always pretty cheap).

So, yeah, the Black version is better, but it doesn't really matter. It's a useful artifact, but not spectacular.

As to how it came to be in that mages possession? The Nerevarine has been dead for a very long time now. Who knows how many hands it's passed through.

Well, depending on how you played Oblivion, the Hero of Kvatch might have had it.

Also, it's been a part of the Elder Scrolls lore for a long time that after about a hundred years, Daedric artifacts fade out of Tamriel and return to the Daedric Lord it belongs to, who can then give it to whomever it pleases them (or, perhaps it might get stolen from the Daedric Lord by a particularly resourceful thief).

Impossible! He was covered from head to toe in equipment that constantly regenerated his life force! Not even Vivec could best him.

did you kill all 4 hostiles in the star?
if not, that's your red dot

Deal with it it's your fault for making that choice.





That's what most people would say. ps I got a black star. Fast traveling to bandit camps in a mater of seconds.