why did they cut ulysses from the final game?

Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:10 pm

I was looking through the cards included in the collectors editon and I relized something.I had never found any frumentarii,speculatores,or ulysses.I looked up them in the wiki and found that ulyses was cut,but failed to find out anything about the frumentarii,and speculatores page hasnt even been made!Where did these charactors go-or where the cards made early into developement,they do have quite a bit of mistakes.any information on these NPCs?
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Reven Lord
 
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:19 am

The Frumentarii are the elite spies/agents of the Legion and you meet at least 2 of them in the game.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:09 am

The Frumentarii are the elite spies/agents of the Legion and you meet at least 2 of them in the game.

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I know about vulpes inculta and the only other spy would be the one trying to kill the NCR president.

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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:16 pm

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I know about vulpes inculta and the only other spy would be the one trying to kill the NCR president.



If you kill Vulpes, some other dude will meet you in Vegas. That'd make it three.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:52 pm

If you kill Vulpes, some other dude will meet you in Vegas. That'd make it five.


Fixed.
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Karl, Kimball's Assassin, Curtis, Vulpes, Vulpes replacement, that Caesar's Favor guy is also a fulmentarii


Btw he was cut due to his dreadlocks.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:31 pm

Fixed.
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Karl, Kimball's Assassin, Curtis, Vulpes, Vulpes replacement, that Caesar's Favor guy is also a fulmentarii


Btw he was cut due to his dreadlocks.

then why didnt they(WARNING:AWFUL PUN) just cut his hair from the game!
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DAVId Bryant
 
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:28 am

then why didnt they(WARNING:AWFUL PUN) just cut his hair from the game!


I'm pretty sure he's kidding.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:55 pm

I'm pretty sure he's kidding.

i know,but ill use any excuse to use my awful pun warning.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:07 pm

i know,but ill use any excuse to use my awful pun warning.


Just making sure... Puns are never awful however. They are the spice of life.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:58 pm

Just making sure... Puns are never awful however. They are the spice of life.

the chipotle spice of life
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Bryanna Vacchiano
 
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:20 am

the chipotle spice of life

I see you do much working with the spice... you make paper... plastics... and isn't that chemical explosives?
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Jonathan Egan
 
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:29 pm

I would totally buy a Ulysses DLC.

I'd buy the hell out of it.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:17 am

Chris Avellone (I think he wrote the character of Ulysses) said it was a really hard decision to pull him out of the game in some interview. No reason was given as to why he was actually cut though, perhaps it was just simply QA already being stretched too thin.
It'd be cool if he could be re-introduced at some point. Seemed like an interesting character.

EDIT: Also, someone over at NMA posted an interesting screenshot from some international version (can't remember which language). In this version, the Wolfhorn ranch area was actually named something like "Ulysses outpost", which would indicate Ulysses would be found there. So I guess the cut was really late in the game if they weren't able to change the translation.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:38 am

My guess is time constraint there wasn't enough time to finish is content so they simply removed them. In a similar incident Shale was originally supposed to be part of the initial released of Dragon Age Origins. He was cut due to time constraints and pushed back into DLC. Now being cut for time constraints says to me that Ulysses intended content was significant far larger than any other companion, mentioning that removing him was difficult furthers that theory.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:46 pm

I think they removed him because they figured he's so cool we will later pay for a DLC with him - so why add him for free.

Just wait for an announcement to say: "Q1 2011 - Bethesda to release Xbox360 exclusive Ulysses DLC".
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Post » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:16 am

Spoiler
I know about vulpes inculta and the only other spy would be the one trying to kill the NCR president.




If you kill Vulpes, some other dude will meet you in Vegas. That'd make it three.

I shot them.
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Angus Poole
 
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:39 pm

A full city was removed from Oblivion! :(
Replaced with a fort, same name, cut out late though, because the roads signs leading to it are either blank and I 'think' a couple of them have the name, Sutch.
It was on the original map. North east of Anvil, North West of Kvatch.
Sorry for going on a tangent.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:12 pm

Cass - White
Boone - White
Raul - Over-cooked
Lily - Blue
Veronica - White
Arcade - White

Rex - Dog
Eddy - Robot

...

I want my black companion damnit!!!
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:46 pm

Cass - White
Boone - White
Raul - Over-cooked
Lily - Blue
Veronica - White
Arcade - White

Rex - Dog
Eddy - Robot

...

I want my black companion damnit!!!

Lily was black - until the dip. Does that count?

Ulysses being cut is probably the only thing I feel annoyed at in NV. He just looks so damn cool!
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:16 pm

Lily was black - until the dip. Does that count?

Nope.
Might've been black before but now she's like a smurf on steroids.
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james tait
 
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:56 am

I want a naive companion
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Post » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:39 am

We need him to be a mix between Samuel. L Jackson and Bob Marley. We're halfway*(woah living on a prayer!)* there we the looks anyway.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:20 pm

Just making sure... Puns are never awful however. They are the spice of life.

Thats aweful punny of you to say that.
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Post » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:11 am

ED-E is black.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:26 pm

The Chris Avellone interview with Ulysses mentioned.

http://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/nonfiction/feature-interview-chris-avellone-game-designer-fallout-new-vegas/
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