Are these the same people that conspired against the Easter Bunny and had it made into stew when they found out bunnies don't lay eggs
What about Santa was that them too...

I wouldn't mind seeing them, to go "oh cool." But other than that I don't really care what they do as long as the game entertains me.

Well you would be right to but Bethesda isn't a person it's a company. Gaining something is what they're all about. Even if they did release them what do we gain from it? There's really no reason for them to do it. :shrug:

True. I think it's just that Bethesda has a habit of being obstinate and uncommunicative, so every new example (even when not entirely unreasonable) just makes me think "oh yeah, typical Bethesda." Were they more open in other areas, I have to wonder if matters like this would generate so much attention.

aren't most companies pretty non-communicative.

No, because I honestly don't give two [censored].

That just about sums it up, though it would be nice to see the company has no obligation to tell us.

If you don't like my answers, provide some "good" answer suggestions
btw that was a stupid question you asked




No - Microsoft for example brags a lot about XBOX sales
http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/20111102/ps3-sales-vs-xbox-360-update-for-2011/

and Win7 sales http://www.tomshardware.com/news/msft-windows-xp-windows-7-market-share-win7,13876.html

Seems like the only reason you want the sales numbers, is so you can tell everyone that they make more money from PC users than from other platforms. And with that number, argue that Bethesda should focus on developing PC games instead of Xbox. And with that, you want to feed the "platform war" for some reason.

Bethesda has nothing to gain by telling their sales numbers right now, otherwise they would have done so already.
And if the numbers prove that most money is made from PC, that BGS can figure out themselves that they perhaps should keep making PC games?

There are a lot of advantages to only releasing information you need to...especially when it comes to software. Most software projects I've worked on have started as "pie in the sky" design documents that were gradually pruned down as the realities of development and budget issues began to crystallize. It doesn't do any good to tout features to non-stakeholding users that you might not be able to deliver. In my experience people are more forgiving about being kept in the dark than they are about being "promised" something and not getting it. For some reason people seem to really dislike things being changed on them. I totally understand being tight-lipped, as it's a policy that has made my life easier as a developer.

As far as financials go, I'm not sure what would motivate Zenimax to release any information they're not required to. The only way that information seems useful to me is to say, "look how many copies we sold...it must be good!" Outside of that, digital entertainment is a competitive business. Although I can't necessarily see how it might be used against them, I also don't see why any business would tip their hand regarding any business data they aren't required to disclose. :shrug:


Ok. In that case, can you explain what kind of obligation or compulsion Zenimax has to publish this information? I don't see why it's so unusual that a private company would choose not to disclose financial details to the general public. It seems pretty reasonable to me. :shrug: Sure, they could choose to release that information simply to satisfy their fanbase's idle curiosities, but they can also choose not to.

Because it would take time and, in effect, money to do so. It's not hard to find the approximate number of sales for their game, then you can do a little bit of math, and arrive at a good estimate. Look at http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1248644-bethesada-may-be-making-most-of-the-money-on-pc/ thread. I don't think whoever made the spreadsheet did a bad job.

They have released sales numbers LOL.

Did they? Where? link?

did it include digital downloads?

How was it a stupid question ?
Why do you want/need to see what Bethesdas sales are?
I don't get how that is stupid.

Notice lil typo, sorted that out

Good answer(s) -
They don't give a crap about releasing them.
They don't need to by law or anything else.
No one should truely care about their sales, bar their own employees

do you publicly announce how much money you make? if you did, how many people do you think would care? some would, and about the same percentage would care about zenimax's income.

it won't make their games any more or less enjoyable by knowing how much they made from them.

Bethesda doesn't release sale numbers because it would make everyone jelly. Then they'd RAGE 'cause they're so jelly and try to make Bethesda look bad.

1) just being snotty right back at you - but if you read all the posts in the thread, you'll likely divine the reason, but if not check out this thread http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1248644-bethesada-may-be-making-most-of-the-money-on-pc/

2) That's obvious, everyone knows it, so why keep stating it

Aren't you even a little bit curious about how many other people are playing the same game? Did you check out the threads about: "Sales Predictions", "Pre-Order volume", AND this thread ????

Aren't you curious about how many PC retail vs PC DD vs XBOX vs PS3 sales?

Sure, people are curious about a lot of things that remain mysteries to them. If the thread is about, "why doesn't Bethesda release sales numbers?" then I think we know the answer. They aren't required to and have little reason to outside of bandwagon-style marketing techniques. :shrug:

I seen some of those other threads, don't think I comment though since those number meant nothing to me.

I am actually not curious about those number/sales/figures at all. As far as the whole Console X Vs Console Y think just annoys me somewhat since its just people going
"0hH X 1S b3Tter Th4n Y"
"Nu-Uhhh, U So0k! Y #1"
Really I just play my console or laptop regardless of how well they do in the wider world because all I want is a game and somewhere to play it, not something thats going to be showing me figures that just baffle me since I'm no financer.
Each his own I guess :shrug:

Because they don't want irritating gamer-geeks all up in their books.

To be honest, with the amount of trash-talking, speculating, flipping out, etc. that people who identify themselves as gamers do (more so than any other "sub-culture" I interact with) I wouldn't release any information to you either. I'd be afraid that my forums would be flooded with asinine assumptions and petty arguments over information that has no relevance to anyone involved in the conversations.