Why STEAM, I did not buy STEAM! : Fallout: New Vegas

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:10 am

You miss the point. Some did not read it sure, but others (like me) knew full well, but are angry that it was done at all.
** Imagine if you were told that you had to give a fingerprint in order to use your ticket to a movie at the theater.

***Actually an airport security check is more apt.

Its the norm and future. If you have nothing to hide then there shouldn't be a problem. The Industry is trying to protect their property/money... you cannot blame them It doesn't matter whether is not it actually work or not.

Which ones? (curious)

Colin McRae Rally 2005
Operation Flashpoint
TOCA Race Driver

Possibly more...

You can buy it like a music CD, but you cannot sell it like music CD. I don't see how Valve can ever make good on that claim, as they would have to get permission from vendors on a title, by title basis ~unless its laid out in their terms of service that they can strip out the protection if they wish.

Most likely built into the contracts with the property/license holders. I am not going to the read the Steam Privacy Policy, but I am sure they will release all that information and allow/require the property/license holders to deal with those issues. If not Steam/Valve will have some issues.

More to be angry about. :shrug:
This is no different than say... if the next Batman film were to only come out on Bluray ~"Deal with it. It is your right to not purchase... the movie."
There is nothing legally wrong with it, but it would still be foul.

True, but this serves no purpose (as of yet) and they will not alienate consumers for no reason.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:44 am

Unfortunately, likely to happen at some point. Can you buy "The Dark Knight" on VHS?

That day is coming, too. Good luck trying to buy VHS copies of new releases.

http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Begins-VHS-Christian-Bale/dp/B000AU9UYW

Batman Begins, but not Dark Knight it seems... Still, that's a tangent point. The gist of the sentiment was that a company produces something you are interested in, but offers it only in a way that you find unacceptable (or barely tolerable).

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:10 pm

One huge problem I see is that I don't think any consumer really knows what benefits the company gets from using a service like Steam. We can see some, and conceive of others, but do we know them all?

We can try to make them see a downside to it and hope that can convince them. Almost inevitably it only convinces them for a limited period of time.

Steam doesn't bother me, and I worry about a downturn in sales being misinterpreted if it does happen.

All in all, this is a rough period for the PC gaming world.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:11 pm

http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Begins-VHS-Christian-Bale/dp/B000AU9UYW

Batman Begins, but not Dark Knight it seems... Still, that's a tangent point. The gist of the sentiment was that a company produces something you are interested in, but offers it only in a way that you find unacceptable (or barely tolerable).

They didn't blindly make a decisions there. Decrease of VHS units sales. Last JVC [original developer] Stand-alone unit sole in Oct. 2008 (yes after the release of Dark Knight, but it was probably forecasted). Maybe the films has issues being compressed to the format.

They pay people to decide stuff like this.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:40 am

Nothing wrong with this thread, per se - but we do try to keep the number of duplicate topics on these boards to a minimum. As there's already an ongoing Steam discussion on this sub-forum, http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1140859-steam-adds-so-much-value-to-fallout-nv/ - I'm going to close this one out and recommend everyone take this conversation over there.

Thanks!