Now I know there's alot of different camps amongst the community as to which Fallout was the best.

I've come to realize that this one is the best, especially after the last patch.


Now my argument isn't entirely fair because I only played Fallout 1, Fallout 3 and F:NV. But I understand that Tactics wasn't that great and FO2 was kind of goofy.


F:NV is the best because it has the most to offer all things considered. FO1 was great, really one of PC game's classics, and probably had the best post apocalyptic "feel". However, that game had no where near the scope of quests, weapons, and of course graphics. Fallout 3 was more of an action game than a legitimate RPG - I had so much fun in FO3, but most of my time in that game was just killing things and all my characters ended up almost exactly the same.

In FO:NV you really get the best of all worlds. I really "feel" like I'm playing a character of my choosing. Killing is secondary to dealing with people, which makes it much more RPGish and realistic. F:NV has an inter-connected world of characters; what you do in one place may change how things work in another. You must make decisions that will negatively affect one person or faction while postitively affecting another person or faction. Stealth also helps if you don't want to work with people, there are many quests that allow you a "stealhty" route - want to find some dirt on someone? just sneak in and find their dirty secrets.

You build the world your in. You forge alliances, you make friends and enemies, you decide who is good and bad from your perspective. You decide who gets to run new vegas, but that choice isn't always easy.

The weapon selection is MASSIVE, a host of guns, melee weapons, cool energy weapons, mods, etc.

F:NV does extremely well to capture a 1950s -> post nuclear, out west feel. This was a slow burner for me... Once you start trekking around, listening to the music, talking to the people you get a definate "cowboy world after nukes feel" - at first it seems cheesy but then it starts to really fit with fallout world/real world.

The problem with F:NV is that it's not an instant classic like FO1, and it doesn't have the "wow effect" of Fo3 (picking through the ruins of washington DC was amazing)

F:NV is a slow burner. Once you play through it a couple of times and really start to realize how well done the character scape is and how accurate the atmosphere really is + all the other goodies it really is an amazing game.

The one thing that sets F:NV apart from oh-so-many other RPGs is the character scape (as I like to call it). Too many RPGs are just "pick this way to kill". This is something better, you have so many options to deal with characters. Fighting is an important but secondary feature, and I think it's why it hasn't received as much attention as other fallouts as well as other RPGs.

This is the lead factor in making it the best because when it comes to a post-nuclear world because it's interesting to think what people would live in that world - F:NV offers this better than the others in the series IMO. Among all the other things mentioned.

Fallout 1 is the best Fallout because it IS Fallout.
No other game can ever be more Fallout than the actual original.
If it's a better "game" or a better "rpg game" is up for discussion.
While the best "Fallout" game is not.

So you're saying it would be more accurate to say 'F:NV is the best game of the Fallout series'?

I disagree.
In any series the first might not always be the best. Was Star Wars IV the best? It was the first but not everyone thinks its the best. Was The Hobbit the best of the LoTR universe?
Was Call of Duty 1 the best? or Call of duty: MW1 the best? Was Half-life 2 better than half life 1?

Just because somethings the first in a series doesn't mean it is the best.

And I'm not saying F:NV is perfect, there were things in Fo1 and Fo3 that were better than F;NV, its just that F:NV is the best all around.

He's not saying it's the "Best" game.
He's saying it's the most "Fallout" game.

Idk to me it just seemed that FO3 had alot more to do in it than F: NV and it felt like FO3 had more weapons and I just liked the "Everything is destroyed setting with a grey sky and no hope" compared to F: NV where the sky is shiny blue and theres plants and stuff and the strip with all its life lol. F: NV is a good game but I just dont think it was as good as FO3. :thumbsup:

Spot on. :goodjob:

Agree with ya. Right behind Fallout 1, NV is the most Fallouty(and thus great) game in the series. Many people don't realize that sandboxing through ruins was not a main aspect of the series till F3. That still doesn't mean I hate it, it's just (I will repeat meself) the vision of the original creators, that's Black Isle/Obsidian, which is the most correct one for me. :fallout:

I would say fallout 2 is best game of the Fallout series and it is not goofy or eaven kinda goofy.

I don't really see it but a lot of others says that Fallout 2 was over the top with it's humor and pop culture references.

There's way more quests in F:NV, and there are way more weapons. F:NV is pretty destroyed too, but I know what you mean about the destroyed feel. Thats one of the things that Fo3 does better than F;NV. Remember though, I said Fo1 and Fo3 do have some elements that are better, F:NV is the best all around.




Like I said, I didn't play Fo2 so that's entirely possible. I just thought it was goofy because in many podcasts about the explaination of the wild west trait they said it was because of some of the goofy content in Fo2.

New Vegas is an Awesome game best fallout since FO2 . I agree with gabriel77dan FO1 is the most fallout because its the original. It sets the stage for everything else.

Ok. I have to admit that some of thouse references were kinda... odd. (but still not "goofy")

Fallout 3 got me interested into the franchise. Its bleak and joyless world was what got me hooked, to see Washington in ruins with a green sky over it was breathtaking.
When I played the original Fallout I was amazed by how plausible everything was. The feeling of urgency was great. The gameplay was amazing once I got over the dated graphics and I instantly loved it, even more that 3.
Fallout 2 was a little overwhelming, especially when I got to New Reno but it was more fallout, whats not to like?It gets second favorite, maybe if I played it first it would have been the winner.
New Vegas is better than 3 but it does not have that "what have we done to the world" feel.

Never played Tactics or the PS2 game since a hear they are not cannon.

The original was best imho.

Play Tactics it is Canon. Beth has agreed the the "High-Level" events are canon. What every "High-level events" mean. Still they agree there is a MWBoS there was a Warrior and a Calculator. Its a great game. PS2 game is not canon at all stay away from it.

Why wasn't F:BOS canon now again?
Cause we fans hated it or cause it contradicted previous lore?

Fairly sure it was both.
Fairly sure part of why it's hated is because of what it did to lore. I heard the gameplay was alright.

Whole lot of both.

:whistling: "I was born before the Bombs fell then the Brotherhood came." It also has the Vault Dweller for some reason leaving Arroyo (which is in Oregon) only to end up as a memeber of the BoS fighting in Texas. Maybe one day it will be considered Canon (at least very small parts of it) but for now its best left forgotten.

It being so hated might have even lead to Interplay cancelling Van Buren.

Edit: Maybe one day it will be officially denied as having existed but its best left forgotten for the rest of eternity.

Looks like you missed a few keys on your keyboard, so I fixed this sentence for you. :spotted owl:

Thanks for the correction :foodndrink:

All fallout games are the best, I can't point to one being better than another just different in ways.

FO1 a classic with loads of options that is just the right scale of difficulty and content.
FO2 expands on 1, adds some gravity to the situation and has some tremendous dialogue and background.
Tactics is Canon and quite frankly a fantastic rpg / war game which adds brilliant features to the series, ones that most sims I have not seen at that time.
FO3 Do anything go anywhere, shoot with anything wear what you like, take what you want, and all in FP and 3rd person views.
FONV More story, added features than FO3, history and splended VA among other things.

No one is better than the others in any great way, just different.

My favourite Fallout game is still Fallout 2, followed closely by Fallout. New Vegas gets the third place.

Perhaps you said it best. ^

Thought F:NV is still my personal favorite.

Before the patch I wouldn't have said that, but now that the sutter is gone (no1 immersion breaker for me) along with a bunch of other things it just feels so great. I can't stop playing it once I start.

IMO the best (of anything) is the one that best represents the core essence of the concept.

In this case I would pick "Empire Strikes Back" as the best Starwars :shrug:, but that is a numbered serial.
Lord of the Rings and Hobbit are not really the same 'series'; They are set in the same lands and have a few of the same characters, but Hobbit is a children's story, and LOTR is a war novel.

With Fallout, I'd have to go with FO1 over any game since as being the best (representative the core concept); IMO every game after fell short, though they were all bigger, and FO2 had some welcome fixes that FO1 lacked. IMO FO3 was a large leap off the right track, and FO:NV was a decent size step back in the right direction.